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You are on the right track. Resist the Borg and Free Obama.

This perspective may shine one small pen-light on the validity of the 9/11 Commission report. We were told it was an ‘indpendent, bipartisan’ effort. Isn’t that an oxymoron?

You make a valid point about the "limiting factor" of security clearances though. Over my career in telecomm, I've seen the creeping growth of clearance requirements in the industry. It's as if the public communications network has been coopted into some kind of government-owned system where you need a Top Secret Crypto NOFORN clearance just to walk in the door. My actual job was predominantly in Broadband Carrier, meaning Klein's circuits all went onto my Fiber, satellite or Microwave systems; although I've worked in just about every part of the operations side of the business. For me, it was ALWAYS about keeping service working. Something I proved in 1989 when I was personally responsible for keeping A.T.&T.'s service working out of San Francisco in the immediate aftermath of the Loma Prieta Earthquake. You may not have been able to call across town, but you could call across the country because of me.

On another note, I passed on what I've read about your Brewster/Jennings revelations to Valerie Plame last year at her book signing in Albuquerque. She said she would have her attorneys look into it to see what they could use in their lawsuit. Of course, reading her book was kind of like reading Jon Marks' and Victor Marchetti's, "The CIA and the Cult Of Intelligence" over 30 years ago.

So a salute to you and all the other "Disgusted Patriots", as John Le Carre called all of those who inhabited "The Secret World".

Bill: Interesting point of view. Personally I can no longer distinguish between the two. And what’s the deal with this ‘Centrism’ motto anyway? I have a suggestion for them: Just integrate both and give them all ‘DR’ status, and be done with it…

Truth Parade: ‘blistering sarcasm’- well, that can be very effective. Not many people are interested in reading way too dry scholarly articles/analysis, and I can see why. Combining solid research, sound analysis, with wit/humor/sarcasm, and a solid coherent simple English is the best recipe. During my organization’s congressional activities I had to go through so many darn footnotes under each proposed legislation; all written by attorneys and in a language that 95+% (including me!) of people wouldn’t understand. No wonder they get away with things!!

Reality Zone: Good point re: Kissinger. Guess what? He also appointed Scowcroft!! These guys who head various lobbies (including foreign lobbies), serve special interest clients, have incredible past baggage….Do you think ‘R’ or ‘D’ matters? Just look at Kissinger: do you know of a single administration in the past 3 decades who had not appointed him! The Deep State is ‘party neutral.’

Ishmael: Welcome. With your background you will have so much to contribute here, especially in the area related to NSA. You know, one of the good points Kline made had to do with having or not having ‘Clearance,’ That also is disappearing, especially in your sector. I live in DC area, and almost every one I meet who works for private companies who either have contract with the Fed gov. or simply work with them, has ‘Clearance.’ Even travel agencies who provide services for let’s say Dep of Agriculture.They say they have to. Many actually love it: they get pay increase and they think it gives them some kind of an edge (not limited to bragging in bars;-)…Most of them have no idea about the ‘negatives.’ That it can work as a hook, and show up as a major limiting factor in many areas…I;d like to hear your take on this.

http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=node&page=2

FYI, Many have learned not to trust those that dirty the water of 9/11 Truth with websites that contain links to UFO sitings.

But there aren’t enough real differences. They (the two main parties and their enablers in the media) spoon feed us with the illusion of competition, and then take our money and give it to their friends.

Oh, and not to forget, but a lot of lives are in the balance (and lost) as well.

Have recently created a blog of my own, where I can express my own sentiments about what is happening in this country, and about what it has become.

I’m not able to speak as extensively and convincingly on these issues as you can, given your background and personal experience. My style is more along the lines of blistering sarcasm. Oh well, it makes me feel better.

I am trying to spark some interest in a new focus for the next anniversary of 9/11; by not just honoring the dead, but calling out those who profited from it.

http://truthparade.blogspot.com/

Thanks to you, kudos and a tip of the Hatlo hat to you. I am a 28-year telecommunications professional who can categorically state, after reading Mark Klein's EFF affadavit, that the only way the Warrantless Wiretap Program can work, BY DESIGN, is to monitor ALL voice and data traffic. Since I also know that Qwest was involved in NSA projects from as far back as 1998 in the Los Angeles Area, it would seem they have no clean hands in this either.

When I started working in Telecomm in 1980 for A.T.&T., I had to sign documents under the Communications Act of 1934 acknowledging that I was liable for job dismissal, civil and criminal penalties if I revealed the substance of ANY communications I overheard in the performance of my job. So it would seem we have gone from one extreme to the other. That's why Telecomm immunity was so necessary. They were also eavesdropping on other telecom companies' customers who used A.T.&T. service.

I personally have come to the conclusion that elective government in the current political process has CEASED to be representative government. The only solution I can come up with to provide TRUE representative government is to replace ALL elective offices with random computer selection under current constitutional requirements from IRS tax rolls.

His administration does not appear to offer the “change” he had promised.

In addition to the things you mention, I would add, for example, (a) authorizing the lopping off of 42 mountaintops for coal; (b) appointing a polluters’ attorney to head the environmental section of the Justice Dept.; (c) appointing RIAA lawyers to high positions in the DOJ; and (d) expending taxpayer resources to attempt to persuade judges that the RIAA is correct to seek as much as $150,000 in “statutory damages” for infringement of a single mp3 file.

In the appointment making process, the one “litmus test” he seems to have is that the appointee have attended his alma mater (Harvard Law School) at around the same time he attended.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/20/1683931.aspx

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122747548224451435.html

When ballots don’t work, we’re left with difficult alternatives.

I don’t envy our children – we’re leaving them with a world where psychopaths are in power, where every action of citizens is monitored, where food is genetically modified, where the environment is poisoned in pursuit of corporate profits, where mass media and public education continually deceives and distracts.

Thank you for your courage in continuing to speak out, Sibel.

One party gets the official spoils. For a time. Office arrangements on K Street get altered as spoils on the other side of the revolving door are allotted and taken, or taken as previously alloted future payment.

What beyond debasing the currency and bloating the money supply is the nation’s economic “policy?”

Is there one other than that country club tees and greens get watered regularly without regard to changing prices of water?

“Credit crunch” as popular vocabulary? That means somebody’s getting screwed while somebody else is prospering. That’s something we can believe in, but it’s not change. Daddy Warbucks never dies and Sandy the dog only says, “Arf.”

Are we the mutt, saying “Arf” to one another?

Given a Clinton State Department, how different were Bush I years, Clinton years, Bush II, then Obama? We invaded Panama and remember that was such a nice little contained war. A happy-pappy ending.

Lost in any press analysis I have ever seen, is how Bill Clinton was attacked by some in Congress over “leakage” of “secret” technological capabilities having military value to the Chinese, taking Bhudist temple money from there, and then, first thing in the Bush II administration is giving the Chinese that spy plane to pick apart and reverse engineer – as if fufilling a promise from the past dressed up and reported as an incident where Bush talked tough, got the crew home, and then flew out the plane as cargo, in parts.

So who were the Chinese going to use this technological gain against, for what?

The press did a great job on that one. Hainan, remember the name?

Do the Google = china spyplane bush

From a time-distanced perspective, how legitimate vs. contrived does that entire situation appear now?

Leave ALL 9/11 complications out of consideration; only consider the rest:

Kyoto was puffed against while, in fact, the economy was downsized with pump prices manipulated, and then on the way out the door the bank/credit situation was dropped to inflame, disorient and divert people’s worries and attention. The press citing chapter and verse.

Something similar has been posted by a dark horse GOP congressional write-in candidate where I live, a candidate in opposition to Michele Bachmann.

http://www.immelman.us/

His most recent post is about continuity in fact trumping press-inflated rehtoric to the contrary.

Are we waiting for Obama to start issuing signing statements? Does he need to, or is the tool crib sufficiently loaded to quell that? He can expand things – issuing signing statements made secret immediately upon signng, or before signing, for national security reasons.

Enough.

Sibel, there still are more questions than answers. Aside from discussing this, how can it be fixed?

Ship of state on a true path, all that?

Facing the questions squarely is a first thing, but it’s like “lite” beer, a watered down version of something real and potentially pleasant.

Some of these gangs are more symbiotic than parasitic. The trick is to know who is behind which candidate.
Sibel's intellectual challenge is a good one to think on.
I voted for John Anderson over Jimmy Carter and we got Ronald Reagan.
Who was to know that Bill Clinton was a front for the drug interests…. even back then the MSM did not report on his overlooking (and many would say facilitating) the Mena, Arkansas, Iran-Contra CIA cocaine operation.
Our choice then was Bill against GHWB… an even scarier person.
It's still scary times.

One thing that they are afraid of is a populist.
The last really threatening populist (even tho Edwards was making noises) was Bobby Kennedy.
And we know how that played out.
I wonder if Bobby's assassin, Caesar, died an old man in Hawaii?

We are a long way from having a working democratic republic.

Imhotep
(still having log-in difficulties)

Great Job.

Kathleen

I tried, during the campaigning, to discuss the decision to vote “least worse” with a couple friends who were very convinced that there was no other choice. I wasn’t able to change their minds, but I, at least, gained their respect for my decision to go independent. Thinking back on it all, I honestly believe the fear of LOSING is just as great or greater than the fear of having the “worst worse” candidate.

I tried to say to them: “When will instant run-off elections, voting holiday, paper-trail, etc. happen?” “Who’s going to make that happen?” “Forever is a long time to wait, so that you can finally vote for the candidate you want.” “You’re being duped!”

It didn’t work and I imagine they’re still clinging on to how bad it could have been if McCain were elected.

If we weren’t so afraid of losing, we might realize what is gained by having more integrity in our principled votes. To me there is no other choice.

“The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a Conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst.”

It might interest you to know that “spellbinder” has been proposed as term to identify a particular role in the formation of a psychopathic social structure, be it a street gang or a government. In Political Ponerology (www.ponerology.com), Dr. Andrew Lobeczewski writes:

[...]Everything becomes subordinated to the spellbinder’s over-compensatory conviction that they are exceptional, sometimes even messianic. An ideology emerges from this conviction, true in part, whose value is supposedly superior. However, if we analyze the exact functions of such an ideology in the spellbinder’s personality, we perceive that it is a nothing other than a means of self-charming, useful for repressing those tormenting self-critical associations into the subconscious. The ideology’s instrumental role in influencing other people also serves the spellbinder’s needs.

The spellbinder believes that he will always find converts to his ideology, and most often, they are right. However, they feel shock (or even paramoral indignation) when it turns out that their influence extends to only a limited minority, while most people’s attitude to their activities remains critical, pained and disturbed. The spellbinder is thus confronted with a choice: either withdraw back into his void or strengthen his position by improving the effectiveness of his activities.
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Such activity is always necessarily characterized by the inability to foresee its final results, something obvious from the psychological point of view because its substratum contains pathological phenomena, and both spellbinding and selfcharming make it impossible to perceive reality accurately enough to foresee results logically. However, spellbinders nurture great optimism and harbor visions of future triumphs similar to those they enjoyed over their own crippled souls. It is also possible for optimism to be a pathological symptom.Even if Obama really was what he represented himself to be, he seriously underestimated the forces that actually run the country. We are seeing the results now.
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Every good luck to you brave Sibel. You are cross-linked.

Sariade

You people keep electing (not really, you’re vote counting systems are riggable) Democrats and Republicans and expect things to change.

If you voted Democrat or Republican in the last election, you’re a g***mn fool.

Those two Political Traitorous Parties are bought and owned by the same Plutocrats. The Democrats are in their left back pocket and the Republicans are in their right back pockets.

The SANE people in this country are Independents.

You can take the Democrats and Republicans and DROWN ALL OF THEM and I’d declare a national f**king holiday.

GET RID OF THEM and you also rid yourselves of these phantoms of terror they murder you and others ALL OVER THE GLOBE with ALL DAY.

Have they BOTH not proven to you now that they BOTH are GUILTY of HIGH TREASON against the American AND OTHER People?

I you are not convinced by now, you never will be.

May God have mercy on you, because I sure wouldn’t.

His actions do not follow…. and by their actions ye shall know them.

One hopeful scenario is that Obama truly believes his own rhetoric but finds himself in an untenable position unable to effect the change he desires…. at least not yet.

On the other hand a complete cynic would say he was only in it for the power and said what he needed to in order to get elected President.

I am still hanging onto hope… a hope that is being shredded one new injustice and coverup at a time.

Imhotep

(for some reason my google account password sign in is not working… and I even reset the password.)