I have been following your story since day one! I am disgusted with the entire setup. The Banksters running America via their “divide and conquer” Democratic/Republican mechanism and mainstream media control has forced me to write a book. I am very excited to see that you did not drop off the planet, and in fact have been very busy. I will now add your site to my news folder to view on a daily basis.

My book will be titled “AWARENESS” – “What the Democrats and Republicans Have Done For You” and will be a compilation of the egregious violations of our Constitutional republic by both parties of what I call the “duo-politic.”

I will attempt to help the layman understand that the Bill of Rights was a contract to us by the Founders wherein if We the People ALLOWED them to create their proposed government they would GUARANTEE the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights would be protected (as a contract with America by them). I will endeavor to help them realize that the rights listed in the Bill of Rights were not granted by government but rather were our natural born rights which were merely listed by the founders in contractual form to remind us all. Unfortunately, the government through our corrupt (Bankster run) Judiciary decided that they would help us all out by “interpreting” them for us. This of course is simply their means of undermining their simple meaning. This all lead to where we are today thanks to our Republican and Democratic puppets of the CFR/Fed.

I realize you have gone to several Senators and Congressmen for help in your plight much to your chagrin, however I believe that two men, one a Democrat (Dennis Kucinich) http://kucinich.house.gov/
and the other a Republican (Ron Paul) http://www.ronpaul.com/, http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

might be the only two men in Congress that will, if shown the facts, help you in your quest. The same media enemies that cover up your story have relentlessly downplayed and marginalized both these men as they have your most important story. I implore you to contact either one or both of these men. The puppets you talked to have long been compromised.

There is a show on, believe it or not FOX News called Freedom Watch http://freedomwatchonfox.com/ with former Federal Judge Andrew Napolitano which may pique your interest also. It is carried over the internet and discusses our Constitutional rights and seeks out means to recover them.

Sibel, I admire you for your strength, honor and integrity to continue to fight against this Bankster run Goliath we have allowed through our apathy to commandeer our republic and I thank you for everything you have struggled to expose.

Thank you

“I apprehend no danger to our country from a foreign foe … Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. — From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence, I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing. Make them intelligent, and they will be vigilant; give them the means of detecting the wrong, and they will apply the remedy.”- Daniel Webster

Your welcome. Gulen is definitely a problem that should be taken care of but I doubt that will happen any time soon. There's been some info in Turkish media lately that those happy boys on the Turkish general staff have been constructing a "coup" against Gulen which they apparently started trying to hatch in April. I guess Gulen will be able to use this to his benefit.

@Anon the Neocon:

My knowledge, is circumscribed to activities on livejournal, and other regional web2.0 platforms. This amounts to very little.

and

I found nothing interesting in Yavuz. Please fill me in.

Yeah, you're right, it does amount to very little, particularly since you're probably not able to work in Turkish language, which is where you find a LOT of interesting stuff. Too bad.

Same for Yavuz. It helps to have Armenian friends as they are able to sniff out a lot of info, even in Turkish, and then I pass the English back to them for the information they need.

But Yavuz gets defended by a former Houston-based MIT type called Guler Koknar. She's all connected–ATAA, TCA, TADF and probably a lot more. Just for laughs, I should search around and see if she's connected to Mehmet Celebi.

By the way, for general info, the mention of "Nursi" refers to Said Nursi, whose signed his name as Said-i Kurdi because he was a Kurd. He was also an "ecumenical" ahead of his time, as he was in a lot of his thought. Gulen stole Said-i Kurdi's ideas, twisted them into a Turkish-nationalist version, and promoted himself ever since.

So Gulen and the Fethullahci are thieves and con-artists all the way around. As for the "holiness" of "Hoca Efendi", according to Nurettin Veren, "Hoca Efendi" tried to kill him here in the US and would have if Gulen's aides didn't hold him back. That would have been messy, considering that "Hoca Efendi" is a CIA asset but, hey, anything can be covered up when it comes to CIA assets, right?

I'd say, "Ask Abdullah Catli" but–HA!–he's dead. Better to ask Yasar Oz, I guess. Or maybe Mehmet Eymur.

The only points I recall are:

– the populace is ignorant

– too bad cause it's too easy and that’s boring for propagandists

– there are no criminal conspiracies

– the CIA is not involved in narco-trafficking, except by association

– and, I think it was the first comment he gave, 'there's nothing new here'

Anon the Neocon, why are you interested in Ms. Edmonds and, at the same time, unable to handle that she is facilitating the naming of names in the MSM? Why does she lose credibility for doing so?

Why do you use Neocon in your screen name?

I trust Ms. Edmonds because of what she has done and is doing. Just take a look at the REAL journalism to which we, her audience, are being exposed. Speaking as a commoner, it’s a breath of fresh air and a chance to share strength.

I’m asking you to explain a little more of your precious perspective.

On CIA & Narc: on our side, too many cases, facts, witnesses (including the DEA you mentioned) to win the argument. Do you agree Mr. Anon the Neocon?

So yes, we should count those as 'involvement.'

I'm confused about your interest in and respect for Ms. Edmonds.

Probably because I'm ignorant. I'm just a commoner.

I try to remain open minded and I'd enjoy more info from you.

Right now, I'm guessing (from the word "our" in your last post, that you have worked for the CIA, but you know what they say about 'assume'.

I'm also perceiving that you have an interest in policing the bad guys and that those in power are not all in it together and are not all part of the criminal establishment.

I fail to see why you don't acknowledge that the termites have made the wood rotten and that there are criminal conspiracies at hand and at high levels of government.

Please help me out. I'm not being fasicous. Thanks.

Most responsible people understand that legalization and regulation are not only humane, but cut out the middle men, I mean criminal establishment, top to bottom.

Most kids take drugs because their peers are selling them. Most drug related deaths are from gunshot wounds and should be considered drug trade related deaths.

Anyone who's against legalization and regulation, I consider ignorant or suspect.

The CIA is an easy target and folks should be careful not to over-use "the CIA" as an analogy for "the criminal establishment", which is what I think is maybe a better catch-all for the criminal conspiritors.

The criminal establishment we have been discussing, including the MSM owners, uses all of the agencies to promote it's agenda of profits and ownership by any means necessary.

Also, I appreciate the sincerity of your posts, though something smells about the way you and KingFisher were attacking Ms. Edmonds credibility, and at the same time, trying to goad her into going to wikileaks.

Your comments suggest that you think we've been promoting the idea that the CIA is solely responsible for the entire world drug trade. I've read most of the comments on the blog and I can't remember anyone suggesting such a thing. We do, however, differ in our ideas about how much effect a change in the CIA's (and other agencies') policies could make against the drug trade. Forgive me if I don't trust your unsupported blanket dismissal of the issue.

CIA and drugs.

CIA assets who engage in drugs business, do not give the CIA any leeway in the drug-trade, nor does their status as "asset" in any way facilitate their drug-running activity into any country whatsoever.

The CIA stands back – it doesn't facilitate, or make their work possible. It is not tasked with the drug-war. It doesn't issue a fake passport so some Turkish agent can get into the country – at least not for the task of selling drugs. Best case scenario – it will ask him to promise not to sell drugs (laughing?).

Not only does the CIA in no way control drugs, it doesn't even control the assets who do drug running. 95 percent of the market is beyond our reach, and the DEA is better positioned than the CIA, both legally and institutionally, in this regards – although even that, is hardly enough to make a dent.

Take the Mexican cartels. What influence do any American agencies have?

Virtually zero. If we happen to have an asset there – it will maybe – I say maybe in a best case scenario – help us with some unrelated operation – but that's it.

You guys overestimate, dramatically, the capability of our intelligence and police agencies.

You underestimate, dramatically, the powerful dynamic, of international crime, and crime participants in general.

On Anon the Neocon's statement regarding Mena and the CIA. Of course the CIA is not in complete control of the world drug cartels… but it does not refute the studied opinion that the CIA has many 'assets' within the many cartels that they do business with… including providing cover for various drug (& oil) pipelines into the US markets.

I was hoping you'd know more about Gulen than myself Mrs. Edmonds. I am familiar with the activities of Islamists, and specifically some Salafists in Eastern Anatolia. Nothing more. My knowledge, is circumscribed to activities on livejournal, and other regional web2.0 platforms. This amounts to very little.

I have of course read a great deal on Gulen – but it is his American non-Muslims (or secular) support networks, that are of real interest. Can you at least indicate whether or not you in anyway possess information that relates to such networks and Gulen (and other Nursist movements)?

I found nothing interesting in Yavuz. Please fill me in.

There's more about Yavuz that's funny, from Wisconsin, but since this is a "clean" blog, I won't bring up that hilarity/hypocrisy.

In fact, it would be interesting if someone could devote the time to investigating the links between Christian jihadi fundies and the Fethullahci. I'm willing to bet, with the little I know about their links, that such an investigation would be highly illuminating.

As for Gary Webb's story, it would make a great movie and be an opportunity to educate the public about how reality works but, given that Hollywood is another arm of official state propaganda organs, I guess we'll have to wait for an indy to bring this story to the big screen.

http://lukery.blogspot.com/2008/07/court-documents-shed-light-on-cia.html

Thank you Mrs. Edmonds, for your welcome, although I am not sure we disagree as strongly as you suggset.

I am very much looking forward to the Wikileaks edition of Edmond's insight, as mentioned by a reader above, till then.

CIA was "involved" in several instances of drug-trade indirectly. Starting with Al-Capone, and the Corsicans – which drew us into the Golden Triangle. I am not informed on the details. But following the Warren and Church committees – this is in the past.

On Turkey. You claim 90% of the Heroin passes through there. I am not aware of any official figure of this sort. The number should be nearer 30 % to 50 %. Remember, there is still a northern route.

This kind of statement reminds me of the claims that Kosovo accounts for all the European distribution of Heroin. The facts speak otherwise, and the likes of Chossudovsky don't like those facts.

I have a special interest, Mrs. Edmonds, in the Gulen case. You mentioned we supported radical Islamic networks in Eurasia. I am aware of certain cases, and I wonder what you have come accross.

A reader mentioned Bary Seal. If you want to get into Mena – it just discredits Mrs. Edmonds. I seriously suggest that many of you underestimate the dimensions of the international drug-trade, and its dynamics. The CIA does not need to be involved in order for drugs to get into our markets. Nor is the CIA capable of in any way interferring with the trade. THe CIA is our intelligence agency – and it cannot select its assets based on domestic US, or domestic foreing, criteria.

Like it or not, the legal framework within which the CIA operates – is non-standard – to put it diplomatically. I am certain that a simple review of this issue, will bring to light what I mean.

Great piece Sibel, albeit a depressing one. I saw Gary Webb speak at my university shortly after the Dark Alliance series came out, and I still grieve for what was done to this man.

Crazy Alex Jones has an audio clip on his site of an interview with Ricky Ross (the main drug dealer involved with the supply line Webb reported on) in which he says Webb told him he'd seen strange people around his house in the weeks before his death. People up the telephone poll outside his house late at night and other suspicious stuff. (it's kinda loud near the beginning so turn your sound down)

http://www.prisonplanet.com/audio/141204ross.mp3

On the other hand there's this article Mike Ruppert wrote about Webb after attending his funeral that addresses the question. He concludes it was suicide and it seems unlikely he would've dismissed other possibilities if he there were any evidence given his apparent reverence for Mr. Webb. Unfortunately the evidence looks stronger that it was probably suicide. Really sad.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/122004_goodbye_giant.shtml

How he got installed, one of many unfortunate plane crashes, is a story; but what LINE did he cross to be seized via invasion, and jailed here?

I never understood that. Perhaps it's because of insufficiently diligent reporting.

I picture Noreiga and the Unabomber as cell mates, guessing at the conversations they'd share.

Noriega saying Bush this, Bush that, and the Unabomber saying, "You should have sent a letter."

On dividing the spoils, it is getting down to naming ambassadors. Is it justly being ignored by the press, the careerists being key, or are there stories falling through the cracks – why this person here, that one there?

At least the press is on top of things. An actor was found dead in a hotel closet in Thailand. Fully reported. There were more questions with Bruce Ivins but less coverage.

And the Supreme Court was today releasing an opinion saying a judge is not like a Chevrolet – where if you buy the Chev you properly want to be in the driver's seat.

But four esteemed gentlemen, Roberts, Scalia, Thomas and Alito felt, it's worth reading their reasoning in disssent, that the majority decision would make litigation more ambiguous and complicated, and would lessen people's trust in the system.

The opinion is online. Oral argument is posted online too.

It is interesting to see the questioning during argument.

These days, I've come to beliebe that the Poet always tells the larger truth. Here are my two favorite voices of conscience.

Canadian singer/songwriter Bruce Cockburn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68zccrskOqQ

Santee Sioux poet/spoken-word artist/AIM activist John Trudell:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcGCCccvYRM

I currently have many of John's interviews and performance pieces posted on my myspace page at:

http://www.myspace.com/lonersassnofvalenciacty

Here is a PBS link for you:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/archive/gunsdrugscia.html

Victor Marchetti came to know the world of covert operations as a long time CIA officer. He is the highest ranking agency official ever to go public about what he learned.

It goes all the way back to the predecessor organization OSS and its involvement with the Italian mafia, the Cosa Nostra in Sicily and Southern Italy. Later on when they were fighting communists in France and–that they got in tight with the Corsican brotherhood. The Corsican brotherhood of course were big dope dealers. As things changed in the world the CIA got involved with the Kuomintang types in Burma who were drug runners because they were resisting the drift towards communism there. The same thing happened in Southeast Asia, later in Latin America. Some of the very people who are the best sources of information, who are capable of accomplishing things and the like happen to be the criminal element.

General Paul Gorman:
If one wants to organize an armed resistance or an armed undertaking for any purpose; the easy place to get the money, the easy places to get the guns are in the drug world.

NARRATOR
General Paul Gorman was the commander of the U.S. southern command, based in Panama, from 1982 to 1985.

"There exists in our nation today a powerful and dangerous secret cult — the cult of intelligence. Its holy men are the clandestine professionals of the Central Intelligence Agency. Its patrons and protectors are the highest officials of the federal government. Its membership, extending far beyond governmental circles, reaches into the power centers of industry, commerce, finance, and labor. Its friends are many in the areas of important public influence — the academic world and the communications media. The cult of intelligence is a secret fraternity of the American political aristocracy. The purpose of the cult is to further the foreign policies of the U.S. government by covert and usually illegal means, while at the same time containing the spread of its avowed enemy, communism. Traditionally, the cult's hope has been to foster a world order in which America would reign supreme, the unchallenged international leader. Today, however, that dream stands tarnished by time and frequent failures. Thus, the cult's objectives are now less grandiose, but no less disturbing. It seeks largely to advance America's self-appointed role as the dominant arbiter of social, economic, and political change in the awakening regions of Asia, Africa, and Latin America. And its worldwide war against communism has to some extent been reduced to a covert struggle to maintain a self-serving stability in the Third World, using whatever clandestine methods are available."

I grew up reading Drew Pearson and Jack Anderson's "Washington Merry-Go-Round" column, listening to Scoop Nisker and Larry Bensky on KSAN and read Marchetti and Mark's book, "The CIA and The Cult Of Intelligence" when it was first published. To me, the above statement of Marchetti's perfectly describes the Corporate/Government/Media oligarchy and it's true goals that we have today.

As for Gary Webb, He has merely joined the legion of people who died under mysterious circumstances like Danny Casolaro, Gary Caradori, William Colby, Raymond Lemme, J. Clifford Baxter, Deborah Palfrey, Michael Connell and others who had damaging information to share about high-level wrongdoing by the power elite.

'SPOOKS' MAKE LIFE MISERABLE FOR AMBASSADOR LODGE

'Arrogant' CIA Disobeys Orders in Viet Nam

SAIGON, Oct.2 – The story of the Central Intelligence Agency's role in South Viet Nam is a dismal chronicle of bureaucratic arrogance, obstinate disregard of orders, and unrestrained thirst for power.

Twice the CIA flatly refused to carry out instructions from Ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge, according to a high United States source here.

In one of these instances the CIA frustrated a plan of action Mr. Lodge brought with him from Washington because the agency disagreed with it.

This led to a dramatic confrontation between Mr. Lodge and John Richardson, chief of the huge CIA apparatus here. Mr. Lodge failed to move Mr. Richardson, and the dispute was bucked back to Washington. Secretary of State Dean Rusk and CIA Chief John A. McCone were unable to resolve the conflict, and the matter is now reported to be awaiting settlement by President Kennedy.

Read the full despatch here:

http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1576

very good book about George H.W. Bush, AL-CIA-DA, and his assassin, Richard Armitage, trafficking black tar heroin out of the GOLDEN TRIANGLE and keeping P.O.W.'s lost over Southeast Asia, incarcerated after the war had ended.

If you want to understand how scummy the Bush clan and AL-CIA-DA is, you need to read this book. It particularly exposes the END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS mentality of the U.S. corrupt scumbag trafficking government.

And then there are the Neocons who have deals for oil and pipelines with their Turkish friends."

If only it were that simple. Not really one for nuance?

Anon the Neocon: Unfortunately I share some of your sentiment and frustration about Mrs. Edmonds (whom I admire) in that I fear she is “slowly destroying her credibility with stories and alliances that do not appear worthy of the information she claimed to have possessed”. (Though I am pretty sure that she possesses solid info) Why keep harping on the media and its failures, when she can throw the 302’s and her affidavit up on WikiLeaks and rub the media’s nose in it?

Ian: Heh, I wouldn’t call Anon the Neocon’s claim that there is “There is no evidence incriminating the CIA in allowing cocaine shipments using CIA planes – nor of CIA agents involved in the traffic" a blatant lie, more willful blindness. I think by “CIA agents” he really means CIA Officers, an “agent” is an “asset”. If he means officers then he may be correct in saying there is no evidence wrt contra activities. If he is talking contra era assets then there is a ton of it. Barry Seal was not a CIA officer, though he was likely an agency asset.
You are on the nose about Ollie North though, but he was not CIA (he was quite loathed there), he worked in the National Security Council. That was one of the legal problems with the contra policy; covert action was illegally being run out of the NSC. CIA got the blame and stigma for the actions of zealots in the Reagan administration; in fact with several exceptions most CIA officers steered away from the Contra resupply because it was a time bomb.

On the McCoy book: there are several editions; the first edition is “The Politics of Heroin in South East Asia” which he wrote as a result of his doctoral research in the late 1960’s-70’s, and then there is a recent edition called “The Politics of Heroin” which covers cases in other regional areas. I recommend both. The global issue of government’s and their relationships with the narcotics trade warrants serious academic inquiry. McCoy is pioneer in this field, but much of the other material is lackluster.

One of the most distinguished and creditable writers on some of the topics the mainstream press won't touch is Peter Dale Scott, retired UC Berkeley professor. This is what he has to say about this topic in his Intro to his book, "The Road to 9/11":

"Beyond the reach of the law, however, is the ability of wealth to subvert true public discourse by creating an artificial realm of media discourse, in which the honest reporters of unpleasant truths are marginalized and sometimes lose their jobs. One such example is that of Gary Webb, whose Pulitzer Prize-winning journalistic career ended after he wrote about the CIA and drugs.

Peter Dale Scott is the author of his own volume on the CIA and drugs.

Lemme think.

Arms for heroin.

Terrorists have heroin, we have Dick Cheney Jails-And-Oil Enterprises and black people who need to be custodial democracied:
http://www.actionlyme.org/HOTEL_HALLIBURTON.htm

So, the terrorists are helping us with our too-many-black-people-and-oil-problems, or demographics, all in the same game.

I think I get it.

And then there are the Neocons who have deals for oil and pipelines with their Turkish friends.

HEYY I wanna piece of that!!

Party-And-Screw-People

K

Please take a look at the ads 'randomly' chosen for this site!!!! How ironic!! Please don't get recruited;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_6dOsAZfZI

Next, maybe you are being diplomatic like Tenet on his IG report: the statements, reports, investigations, do NOT cover CIA assets; even NOCs. Are you?

Finally, I did not set up this blog to discuss my case. I did that for 8 years and there is a website with tons of information @ justacitizen.com. This is my place to share and discuss macro issues; at least macro to me. And, to really get others' take/feedback. Now, you say 'analyses of your case'- About 90% of world Heroin comes through and via Turkey. The State Secrets Privilege has to do with 'macro' issues, shady activities, even shadier cover ups involving our establishment's 'real' activities via Turkey…Heroin/narcotics, our buried info dealing directly with Afghan heroin via Turkey… has a lot to do with it. So does our MSM.

I will have a fairly lengthy piece on this. Hopefully will be posted next week.

Zica: on 'deleted comment': )) Hope that was his/her last one!!

Claudia: I am going to go with 'backed up' and established facts. That angle is still 'speculation.' Suspicious, but still…

Ian: Sound reasoning. Good examples. There are tons: Vietnam, Laos, Afghanistan, KLA…

^^^ CIA drug smuggling, according to Mike Ruppert, a former LA Narc.

Besides, all you have to do is read Tarpley's Unofficial Biography of the Bushies to find out that most of the Boston
http://www.actionlyme.org/DURHAM_BUSH_CRIME.htm
Brahmins made their money on the illegal drug trade- including the Forbes-John-Kerry family.

Now, I-Me-My, my people are the Rockefellers who also made all their money by criminal FRAUD:
http://www.actionlyme.org/ROCKEFELLER.htm

And who helped create the CIA, who the CIA actually works for.

This is all not to mention that the Bushie CIA Spook Bank – the Riggs Bank – was run by Jonathan Bush:
http://www.actionlyme.org/LYME_CORRUPTICUT.htm

I am guessin the Spook Bank was the money-laundering bank of the druggie-CIA.

Kathleen M. Dickson

Anon, you are showing yourself to be a shill for the gov with such blatant lies as "There is no evidence incriminating the CIA in allowing cocaine shipments using CIA planes – nor of CIA agents involved in the traffic."
What would you consider Barry Seals if not a direct 'asset' of the CIA? his planes and drug runs were for himself? Uh huh. And what about our dear Oliver North? He has been directly placed at the scene of the crimes (cocaine manufacturing bases in central america). Stop with the disinfo campaign. The gov pardons for this crap were bad enough but to keep trying to act as if this didnt happen is shameful.

I in no way meant to insult anyone with the above comment – it's just genuine frustration. When Mrs. Edmonds began her website, I was sincerely looking forward to learning.

Gary Webb for me, is simply a dead cause. The Isikoff incident was much more insightful.

I prefer when Mrs. Edmonds shares her experience, because it appears more relevant, more transparent, than events which we all only observed in the media.

In this post, we are asked to consider too many things at once.

If the subject is agency-media ties, then yes they exist, and will always exist. And if that's the subject of discussion, we don't need Gary Webb – because the dynamic in his case, is colored by prejudice against the CIA.

I am beginning to think Mrs. Edmonds, that all the secrets you posses – either amount to nothing, or you don't possess much of anything. If you continue in the vain you've chosen, you'll soon be appearing on Alex Jone's show. This is a profound disappointment for me – as I was always interesting in learning something valuable from what you had to eventually release.

I think the evidence points to CIA doing its work. The DEA is the agency tasked with the global drug war.

There is no evidence incriminating the CIA in allowing cocaine shipments using CIA planes – nor of CIA agents involved in the traffic.

You would be more sincere if you actually faulted the traffickers for their dirty deeds, via Latino distribution networks- instead of wasting your time on the easy target – the CIA. Yes, easy target, because it has no conceivable way of defending itself against malicious slurs. Whereas the mafia does – via a political discourse in which you will quickly be called a "racist" if you don't tow the PC line. The closest our agencies get to this, is when right-wingers shout down debate with the "patriotism" canard. In the case of our nation's leading investigative agencies, the "patriotism" ploy doesn't come close to the ability of ethnic lobby groups to censor debate.

Our nations newspapers are well connected with all kinds of sources in the country. Whatever information they obtained via their sources, for whatever purposes, appears to have been accurate.

Once more – the CIA never participated knowingly and willingly in so much as a single delivery of drugs from Latin America.

The Webb story is the cause celebre of the Jeremiah Wrigth's of this world – and a fine waste of time for someone of Mrs. Edmond's caliber – who is slowly destroying her credibility with stories and alliances that do not appear worthy of the information she claimed to have possessed.

I would like to communicate to the pos(t)er that most intelligent people realize that posts like that are purposefully meant to dirty the water.

You have no place here for your BS. Go look up Truth Parade (if that is not you) and go have yourselves a mind muddle.

Hint: IT'S NOT WORKING!

We do know for sure some of the California press would not report the Lyme Disease crimes when given the material because they said they were threatened by advertizers that the advertisers would withdraw their ads.

I am guess that means Kaiser-Permanente, which is quite central to the Lyme crimes, along with their CDC (CIA) bribees.

Additionally, MSM are surely vain-arrogant and in many cases, just plain liars. To Wit: Pam Weintraub.

(And sneaky, too!)

Kathleen M. Dickson
http://www.actionlyme.org

My take as to why the "ganging up" happens is first option 1 – establishment as extension of government, followed closely by option 4 – as Pogo said "we have met the enemy & he is us "

Markum

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Newsweek
Time Magazine
Washington Post

As to your question of what the gang represents when they make a hit, I'd have to say all of the above, since the government is overlapped with and controlled by the establishment. The individuals involved could be acting in an egotistical way or as extensions of the establishment, depending on their access to power.

As for the blame, individuals should be confronted when possible and blamed when they have access to power and are acting as extensions of the establishment, but the blame also needs to be focused at the systemic level of the establishment and the government.

Reminds me of what Anon the Neocon said about the laws concerning the media, except that I interpreted his comments as blaming individuals in the government and not the recognizing the establishment's control of the system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6dHqP9wc3k&fmt=18

Importantly, in it he remarks that some of the Washington Post reporters who attacked him were former CIA.

I think in general even individual people rarely act for just one reason. Most of the time the world is messy and complex. So it stands to reason that the factors playing into why reporters go along with the official story are probably equally many. But I think the common human need for acceptance, being a member of the club, is a big factor. The desire to protect one's job, or to protect one's standing with 'sources' inside agencies (which is itself a kind of status thing for a reporter) – all these probably play a factor. But they play such a big factor because there is, I feel certain, a highly organized campaign on the part of some in the government to covertly have a hand in the media. That's why when a reporter feels the need to tow the line that line is a government line. It is conceivable after all that history would have gone differently and hard hitting investigative reporting would have developed it's own social momentum so that reporters would feel pressured socially to do good reporting (we can all dream right?). Some, of course, still do feel that, but now it's conscience calling and not peer pressure. Real investigative journalist have almost no peers (in both senses). But I also concede that the shared interest of the corporate heads of media conglomerates and government officials also plays a role. The heads of some of the big papers do regularly attend Bilderberg meetings after all. That says something no matter what you think about Bilderberg. Also I watched the recent episode of Nova on PBS about the NSA. Someone on there remarked, I believe, that he remembers the director of the NSA before 911, spending a lot of his time worrying about Hollywoods portrayal of the NSA in movies like Enemy of the State. And then there are stories about the Armies involvement in sponsoring movies . . .

OTC has strong feelings about your story and the media.

Yes some of the blame falls on us but it's the ownership of corporate media that is the real blame. They want what is seen on MSM to be exactly what it is at any given time. Yes it's propaganda but it's been brainwashing as well.
Their team is far ahead and time is running out. Big media is our biggest enemy.

We are the last defense against them and big media want control of the internets as we all know. A grab for that was made not that long ago and even with the dims in power that means nothing as they will try again soon to get that control over who sees what on the internets.

You wrote a piece just a short time ago on how politicians are coerced. I go farther than that and say key players for years have been threatened with much worse and that is the reason why there has not been one bit of accountability at all for the worst crimes committed by elected officials in the history of our country.