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	<title>Comments on: The Makings of a Police State-Part II</title>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if some guy got caught sneaking explosives onto a plane in his rectum instead of his shoe, would we all have to drop trou, bend over, and spread &#039;em at the security check point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if some guy got caught sneaking explosives onto a plane in his rectum instead of his shoe, would we all have to drop trou, bend over, and spread &#39;em at the security check point?</p>
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		<title>By: Kingfisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kingfisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;What ever happened to the civil disobedience of the 60&#039;s Where are all those vocal political activist now? Where are the Chicago sevens? Where are the Jerry Rubins, Abby Hoffmans, Gloria Steinems and Bella Abzugs? Where are the Bob Dylans and Alan Ginsbergs championing American freedom and anti-war sentiment?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And what exactly did they achieve?  Not what they did, I know who they are and what they did; but, what did they really achieve?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m sorry, but I am not giving baby-boomers the benefit of the doubt after what they have done to our country.  Specific examples please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&quot;What ever happened to the civil disobedience of the 60&#39;s Where are all those vocal political activist now? Where are the Chicago sevens? Where are the Jerry Rubins, Abby Hoffmans, Gloria Steinems and Bella Abzugs? Where are the Bob Dylans and Alan Ginsbergs championing American freedom and anti-war sentiment?&quot;</i></p>
<p>And what exactly did they achieve?  Not what they did, I know who they are and what they did; but, what did they really achieve?</p>
<p>I&#39;m sorry, but I am not giving baby-boomers the benefit of the doubt after what they have done to our country.  Specific examples please.</p>
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		<title>By: Sibel Edmonds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sibel Edmonds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon. re: 60s: I&#039;ve been asking the same questions. Some say &#039;not having draft...&#039; Maybe &#039;they&#039; learned a lesson or two, then worked systematically to reduce/eliminate the chance of &#039;vigilant&#039; citizenry...You know dope them with &#039;entertainment news &amp; TV,&#039; ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;gope: you are right; incredible experience &amp; very eye opening. Thank you for sharing it here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon. re: 60s: I&#39;ve been asking the same questions. Some say &#39;not having draft&#8230;&#39; Maybe &#39;they&#39; learned a lesson or two, then worked systematically to reduce/eliminate the chance of &#39;vigilant&#39; citizenry&#8230;You know dope them with &#39;entertainment news &amp; TV,&#39; &#8230;</p>
<p>gope: you are right; incredible experience &amp; very eye opening. Thank you for sharing it here.</p>
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		<title>By: gope</title>
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		<dc:creator>gope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a couple of comments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Gore Vidal on the police state: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090728_america_the_great_police_state/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. What is portrayed in the video clip is more benign, I think, than what happened to me in Monterey, CA last year.  I was out walking, saw a beautiful rainbow, and took a picture of it.  Public street.  Then from a distance across a lawn I see a military type person gesturing for me to approach him.  Like an idiot, I did.  They detained me for questioning because there was a military installation in the background of my picture.  They wanted my ID and wanted to know why I was there.  I advised them of their oath to uphold the US Constitution and refused to give them my ID (curiously, I was attending a conference and had a ID slung around my neck identifying not only me but my purpose for being there.)  They made me delete the pictures from my camera and finally let me go without showing ID.  But they harassed me pretty hard in the 40-minute process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a couple of comments.</p>
<p>1. Gore Vidal on the police state: <a href="http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090728_america_the_great_police_state/" rel="nofollow">http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090728_america_the_great_police_state/</a></p>
<p>2. What is portrayed in the video clip is more benign, I think, than what happened to me in Monterey, CA last year.  I was out walking, saw a beautiful rainbow, and took a picture of it.  Public street.  Then from a distance across a lawn I see a military type person gesturing for me to approach him.  Like an idiot, I did.  They detained me for questioning because there was a military installation in the background of my picture.  They wanted my ID and wanted to know why I was there.  I advised them of their oath to uphold the US Constitution and refused to give them my ID (curiously, I was attending a conference and had a ID slung around my neck identifying not only me but my purpose for being there.)  They made me delete the pictures from my camera and finally let me go without showing ID.  But they harassed me pretty hard in the 40-minute process.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What ever happened to the civil disobedience of the 60&#039;s Where are all those vocal political activist now? Where are the Chicago sevens? Where are the Jerry Rubins, Abby Hoffmans, Gloria Steinems and Bella Abzugs? Where are the Bob Dylans and Alan Ginsbergs championing American freedom and anti-war sentiment? Why not stage a national no fly day? If no  one showed up to fly for a day or two the whole system would be thrown into chaos. It all depends on you and your participation - or lack thereof. If you refuse to participate, then they are powerless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What ever happened to the civil disobedience of the 60&#39;s Where are all those vocal political activist now? Where are the Chicago sevens? Where are the Jerry Rubins, Abby Hoffmans, Gloria Steinems and Bella Abzugs? Where are the Bob Dylans and Alan Ginsbergs championing American freedom and anti-war sentiment? Why not stage a national no fly day? If no  one showed up to fly for a day or two the whole system would be thrown into chaos. It all depends on you and your participation &#8211; or lack thereof. If you refuse to participate, then they are powerless.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Mrs. Edmonds, you must respect my authoritie!!  Don&#039;t you get it.  You need protection from those evil baby carriage makers who might hail from some Middle Eastern country.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m reminded of a brave soul named Aaron Zelmen, who is the founder and executive director of JPFO(Jews for the Preservation of Firearms  www.jpfo.org  They make the NRA look like the true wimps they are)  I asked him to come and speak at a pro-gun rally, and explain to people why these guns laws are nothing more than victim disarmament laws.  He wanted to come, but refuses to fly only because of this.  I wonder how many refuse to fly just because of the ridiclous screening that goes on in airports.  &lt;br /&gt;Why the airlines puts up with this crap, lord know why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Mrs. Edmonds, you must respect my authoritie!!  Don&#39;t you get it.  You need protection from those evil baby carriage makers who might hail from some Middle Eastern country.</p>
<p>I&#39;m reminded of a brave soul named Aaron Zelmen, who is the founder and executive director of JPFO(Jews for the Preservation of Firearms  <a href="http://www.jpfo.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.jpfo.org</a>  They make the NRA look like the true wimps they are)  I asked him to come and speak at a pro-gun rally, and explain to people why these guns laws are nothing more than victim disarmament laws.  He wanted to come, but refuses to fly only because of this.  I wonder how many refuse to fly just because of the ridiclous screening that goes on in airports.  <br />Why the airlines puts up with this crap, lord know why.</p>
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		<title>By: Sibel Edmonds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sibel Edmonds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bergman: She always does;-)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DPF: &#039;how bloody compliant and docile people are.&#039; Right on; this is exactly why we are where we are today. I wish we could multiply that courageous shoe-thrower Iraqi journalist by ...let&#039;s say 10,000 or so; can you imagine the impact? People throwing their shoes at the check points to protest... Maybe I&#039;ll write a post titled &#039;I have dreams&#039; and make this one of them;-) Also, thank you for sharing; as you know I can relate. I too won&#039;t &quot;give my children to the state.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ishmael: Thanks for the link. I&#039;ll place my order. I have 12 days to leave for my trip, and I may get it in time!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Woozle: Hope to have her over here! Usually I have &#039;those&#039; words in my first draft; then I go and take out most on the second draft, and finally, I&#039;ll have someone to look over my shoulder and censor the leftover- That&#039;s how you get to read the PG 13 version;-)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Heisenberg: Good one!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dennis: As always &#039;right on.&#039; Just pick up any one of our major papers and highlight the words &#039;terror&#039; and &#039;terrorists&#039; &#039;n their first 2 or 3 pages; then count them. It certainly sustains TSA, DHS, NSA illegal wiretap, torture, rendition...Systematically wash brain, program fear, and exert control; the game played in every police state, by every dictator...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hannah: Bravo. Beautifully and so very effectively written! I concur with every sentence, every word. Do you have a website/blog? Have you been writing about this? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anon on Israeli Model Security: You bet. They&#039;ve been trying to bring in the &#039;fear sniffing&#039; dogs trained in Israel, but so far not successful. They need to turn up the MSM fear mongering a notch, have a few glorious examples of successful terrorist catch in Israel and a few other places, and maybe a couple of fear-inducing incidents written and coreographed by Hollywood...and we&#039;ll be there. Anyway, thank you for adding this important angle/point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bergman: She always does;-)</p>
<p>DPF: &#39;how bloody compliant and docile people are.&#39; Right on; this is exactly why we are where we are today. I wish we could multiply that courageous shoe-thrower Iraqi journalist by &#8230;let&#39;s say 10,000 or so; can you imagine the impact? People throwing their shoes at the check points to protest&#8230; Maybe I&#39;ll write a post titled &#39;I have dreams&#39; and make this one of them;-) Also, thank you for sharing; as you know I can relate. I too won&#39;t &quot;give my children to the state.&quot;</p>
<p>Ishmael: Thanks for the link. I&#39;ll place my order. I have 12 days to leave for my trip, and I may get it in time!</p>
<p>Woozle: Hope to have her over here! Usually I have &#39;those&#39; words in my first draft; then I go and take out most on the second draft, and finally, I&#39;ll have someone to look over my shoulder and censor the leftover- That&#39;s how you get to read the PG 13 version;-)</p>
<p>Heisenberg: Good one!</p>
<p>Dennis: As always &#39;right on.&#39; Just pick up any one of our major papers and highlight the words &#39;terror&#39; and &#39;terrorists&#39; &#39;n their first 2 or 3 pages; then count them. It certainly sustains TSA, DHS, NSA illegal wiretap, torture, rendition&#8230;Systematically wash brain, program fear, and exert control; the game played in every police state, by every dictator&#8230;</p>
<p>Hannah: Bravo. Beautifully and so very effectively written! I concur with every sentence, every word. Do you have a website/blog? Have you been writing about this? </p>
<p>Anon on Israeli Model Security: You bet. They&#39;ve been trying to bring in the &#39;fear sniffing&#39; dogs trained in Israel, but so far not successful. They need to turn up the MSM fear mongering a notch, have a few glorious examples of successful terrorist catch in Israel and a few other places, and maybe a couple of fear-inducing incidents written and coreographed by Hollywood&#8230;and we&#39;ll be there. Anyway, thank you for adding this important angle/point.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, this shouldn&#039;t surprise you but the security checkpoints are modeled after the Israeli Mossad&#039;s IDF soldier checkpoints....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://whatreallyhappened.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.whatreallyhappened.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondly, this also shouldn&#039;t surprise you....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But just in case you didn&#039;t know.....Most of the people heading up &quot;TSA&quot; Airport security are Israeli trained informants, if not outright Zionists. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Therefore it shouldn&#039;t surprise you that, anyone with a &quot;muslim&quot; sounding name...or &quot;really long name&quot; or anything like that...is often harrassed, detained, strip searched or worse at any one of these &quot;fine&quot; airport institutions..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Such as Huntleigh Air in Alabama. Learn what that &quot;fine&quot; leader Pat Robertson did to take it over, along with the IDF, in one of Bamford&#039;s earlier books. It&#039;s out in the open. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They flat don&#039;t like anyone who is arabic or a muslim &amp; they make no attempt to hide this racism at TSA, or any of those NSA outfits...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, this shouldn&#39;t surprise you but the security checkpoints are modeled after the Israeli Mossad&#39;s IDF soldier checkpoints&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://whatreallyhappened.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.whatreallyhappened.com</a></p>
<p>Secondly, this also shouldn&#39;t surprise you&#8230;.</p>
<p>But just in case you didn&#39;t know&#8230;..Most of the people heading up &quot;TSA&quot; Airport security are Israeli trained informants, if not outright Zionists. </p>
<p>Therefore it shouldn&#39;t surprise you that, anyone with a &quot;muslim&quot; sounding name&#8230;or &quot;really long name&quot; or anything like that&#8230;is often harrassed, detained, strip searched or worse at any one of these &quot;fine&quot; airport institutions..</p>
<p>Such as Huntleigh Air in Alabama. Learn what that &quot;fine&quot; leader Pat Robertson did to take it over, along with the IDF, in one of Bamford&#39;s earlier books. It&#39;s out in the open. </p>
<p>They flat don&#39;t like anyone who is arabic or a muslim &amp; they make no attempt to hide this racism at TSA, or any of those NSA outfits&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah K. O'Luthon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah K. O'Luthon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another post right on target.  There is indeed terrorism at U.S. airports, and it&#039;s state terrorism aimed at maintaining the sheep-like public in fearful support of the national security state.  Both political parties are aligned with the securocrats, and indeed anyone who raises an objection is classified as either a kook or a subversive.  There are a few exceptions to the pro-security unanimity rule (Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Cynthia McKinney, and others like Ms. Edmonds and her supporters), but one can not escape the overall impression of passive acceptance by the vast majority of those who call themselves &quot;citizens&quot; but are actually mere &quot;subjects&quot; or &quot;consumers&quot;. I wonder at what point some incident will transform this passive acceptance of interference in private lives into a groundswell of public fury.  Such a change is probably decades away.  Meanwhile the American flying public gives proof of a patience and resignation fully comparable to that of Russian peasants under tsarism or French sans-coulottes under the &lt;i&gt;ancien regime&lt;/i&gt;.  The faith that undergirds such blind submission is now the American civic religion rather than Russian Orthodoxy or Gallic Catholicism.&lt;br /&gt;Who would have thought that those gazing at the denizens of the city upon a hill would be witnesses to the site of a shoeless crowd bowing and scraping as they pass through control points and metal detectors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another post right on target.  There is indeed terrorism at U.S. airports, and it&#39;s state terrorism aimed at maintaining the sheep-like public in fearful support of the national security state.  Both political parties are aligned with the securocrats, and indeed anyone who raises an objection is classified as either a kook or a subversive.  There are a few exceptions to the pro-security unanimity rule (Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Cynthia McKinney, and others like Ms. Edmonds and her supporters), but one can not escape the overall impression of passive acceptance by the vast majority of those who call themselves &quot;citizens&quot; but are actually mere &quot;subjects&quot; or &quot;consumers&quot;. I wonder at what point some incident will transform this passive acceptance of interference in private lives into a groundswell of public fury.  Such a change is probably decades away.  Meanwhile the American flying public gives proof of a patience and resignation fully comparable to that of Russian peasants under tsarism or French sans-coulottes under the <i>ancien regime</i>.  The faith that undergirds such blind submission is now the American civic religion rather than Russian Orthodoxy or Gallic Catholicism.<br />Who would have thought that those gazing at the denizens of the city upon a hill would be witnesses to the site of a shoeless crowd bowing and scraping as they pass through control points and metal detectors.</p>
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		<title>By: Edit_Mommies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edit_Mommies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very lucrative prospect Coaching travelers at conduct response and accurate travelogue. The play by play assessment would be a luxury few could afford. For that reason human speech would almost definitely have to be eliminated. The only remaining shred of human existence available to you would be your time honored copy of Frank Herbert&#039;s Dune. Just keep your head down and start squawking all the way into the endzone. In addition to your baby maverick pack, a codpiece would be worn. You may conduct appreciation gestures by affectionately pointing at ground in front of you. The remaining safety caste could maintain some kind of stereotypical forgiveness posture. Preparing for a tackle shield if starlight does not project your compliance with fellowship and mimicry. Yeah well I am going to salute you FBI deserter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very lucrative prospect Coaching travelers at conduct response and accurate travelogue. The play by play assessment would be a luxury few could afford. For that reason human speech would almost definitely have to be eliminated. The only remaining shred of human existence available to you would be your time honored copy of Frank Herbert&#39;s Dune. Just keep your head down and start squawking all the way into the endzone. In addition to your baby maverick pack, a codpiece would be worn. You may conduct appreciation gestures by affectionately pointing at ground in front of you. The remaining safety caste could maintain some kind of stereotypical forgiveness posture. Preparing for a tackle shield if starlight does not project your compliance with fellowship and mimicry. Yeah well I am going to salute you FBI deserter.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing . . .Sibel,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I consider what happened to you in the airport an atrocity. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Atrocities come in all shapes, sizes, colors and genders - defined as:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the quality of being shockingly cruel and inhumane &lt;br /&gt;an act of atrocious cruelty &lt;br /&gt;wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn&lt;br /&gt;An extremely cruel act; a horrid act of injustice&lt;br /&gt;en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atrocity &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The worst atrocity - or maybe the only atrocity at the root of all cruelty - is lack of respect for another being.Think about it. With simple respect so much negativity is negated. We have a big job ahead. Keep it going!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dennis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing . . .Sibel,</p>
<p>I consider what happened to you in the airport an atrocity. </p>
<p>Atrocities come in all shapes, sizes, colors and genders &#8211; defined as:</p>
<p>the quality of being shockingly cruel and inhumane <br />an act of atrocious cruelty <br />wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn<br />An extremely cruel act; a horrid act of injustice<br />en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atrocity </p>
<p>The worst atrocity &#8211; or maybe the only atrocity at the root of all cruelty &#8211; is lack of respect for another being.Think about it. With simple respect so much negativity is negated. We have a big job ahead. Keep it going!</p>
<p>Dennis</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the airport security mess has achieved its purpose - that of creating fear in the hearts of Americans. It can serve no other sane purpose - for secure it is not and simply harasses us. I am fortunate to be in a situation where I can usually choose not to fly - but I have nothing but empathy for those who must. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;strangely as I read these posts I was wearing my T-Shirt &quot;Homeland Security, Fighting Terrorism since 1492&quot;. Many people stop me to say that it gives them a whole new perspective upon seeing it. See - little things can help. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks Sibel!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;Dennis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the airport security mess has achieved its purpose &#8211; that of creating fear in the hearts of Americans. It can serve no other sane purpose &#8211; for secure it is not and simply harasses us. I am fortunate to be in a situation where I can usually choose not to fly &#8211; but I have nothing but empathy for those who must. </p>
<p>strangely as I read these posts I was wearing my T-Shirt &quot;Homeland Security, Fighting Terrorism since 1492&quot;. Many people stop me to say that it gives them a whole new perspective upon seeing it. See &#8211; little things can help. </p>
<p>Thanks Sibel!!!!!<br />Dennis</p>
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		<title>By: Kingfisher</title>
		<link>http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2009/07/24/the-makings-of-a-police-state-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-1196</link>
		<dc:creator>Kingfisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ishmael,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;I purposely renewed my driver&#039;s license for 8 years in 2006 because they were switching to RFID/RealID licenses in 2007. I have never applied for a passport for the same reason.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Numerous products in the form of wallets, sleeves and cases are available to shield the RFID signal for until you need to take it out.  They usually price under $20.  Those who are thrift inclined and wish to roll their own should purchase a disposable foil roasting tray, then cut and fold it into the desired shape.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bruce Schneier is a security and security technology expert who’s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.schneier.com/blog/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blogged&lt;/a&gt; about the flaws in RFID passports extensively.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sibel, if you wish to do a podcast discussing the intersection of security and technology, I highly recommend Bruce Schneier.  He can communicate to laymen well (as opposed to other tech types), and has been a vocal critic of ineffective security and encroachment on civil liberties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ishmael,<br /><i>&quot;I purposely renewed my driver&#39;s license for 8 years in 2006 because they were switching to RFID/RealID licenses in 2007. I have never applied for a passport for the same reason.&quot;</i></p>
<p>Numerous products in the form of wallets, sleeves and cases are available to shield the RFID signal for until you need to take it out.  They usually price under $20.  Those who are thrift inclined and wish to roll their own should purchase a disposable foil roasting tray, then cut and fold it into the desired shape.</p>
<p>Bruce Schneier is a security and security technology expert who’s <a href="http://www.schneier.com/blog/" rel="nofollow">blogged</a> about the flaws in RFID passports extensively.  </p>
<p>Sibel, if you wish to do a podcast discussing the intersection of security and technology, I highly recommend Bruce Schneier.  He can communicate to laymen well (as opposed to other tech types), and has been a vocal critic of ineffective security and encroachment on civil liberties.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if this will be Part 3... http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/idf-vets-train-us-jews-protect-their-communities#comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if this will be Part 3&#8230; <a href="http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/idf-vets-train-us-jews-protect-their-communities#comments" rel="nofollow">http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/idf-vets-train-us-jews-protect-their-communities#comments</a></p>
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		<title>By: heisenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>heisenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember the jingle, &quot;Fly the friendly skies ...&quot;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, they probably even have to go through TSA - HSA protocol when doing renditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember the jingle, &quot;Fly the friendly skies &#8230;&quot;?</p>
<p>Now, they probably even have to go through TSA &#8211; HSA protocol when doing renditions.</p>
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		<title>By: Edit_Mommies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edit_Mommies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are describing economic boundaries. Romantically involving the summit of sports medicine. Transients with attitudes? 20 hours you could of been valuing the homeless with administration purposes. Drenched in something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are describing economic boundaries. Romantically involving the summit of sports medicine. Transients with attitudes? 20 hours you could of been valuing the homeless with administration purposes. Drenched in something.</p>
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		<title>By: Woozle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woozle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.P.S. I read your story, Sibel, out loud to my hypertwin. She periodically interrupted to shout angry exclamations at the various idiocrats involved -- and each time she did so, the very next thing in the story was you saying essentially what she had just said (but taking out the cuss words, and rephrased for improved credibility).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Truly excellent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.P.S. I read your story, Sibel, out loud to my hypertwin. She periodically interrupted to shout angry exclamations at the various idiocrats involved &#8212; and each time she did so, the very next thing in the story was you saying essentially what she had just said (but taking out the cuss words, and rephrased for improved credibility).</p>
<p>Truly excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: Ishmael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ishmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask and you shall receive. Here&#039;s the link address:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://westwindworld.com/store/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The company is Native American owned and has many other humerous items for sale like The Indian Border Patrol, Sitting Bull(What Part of &quot;NO&quot; Don&#039;t You Understand?), Please Do Not Feed The Pilgrims and the Leonard Peltier Prison Break Team. ALL shirts guaranteed to get you placed in the Third World section at DHS checkpoints and made by the REAL FBI, Full Blooded Indians.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anawashte, Kola.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yatta Hey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask and you shall receive. Here&#39;s the link address:</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow">http://westwindworld.com/store/</a></p>
<p>The company is Native American owned and has many other humerous items for sale like The Indian Border Patrol, Sitting Bull(What Part of &quot;NO&quot; Don&#39;t You Understand?), Please Do Not Feed The Pilgrims and the Leonard Peltier Prison Break Team. ALL shirts guaranteed to get you placed in the Third World section at DHS checkpoints and made by the REAL FBI, Full Blooded Indians.</p>
<p>Anawashte, Kola.</p>
<p>Yatta Hey!</p>
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		<title>By: Deep Politics Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deep Politics Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been a mother I can totally understand how difficult travel with children can be at the best of times. Having to deal with the pretentious claptrap of the police state just to go from A to B would be too much for any sane person. Having said that I am amazed at how bloody compliant and docile  people are. I will not even permit my bag to be searched upon entering or exiting a shop. &quot;Arrest me if you have proof I have stolen or let me be on my way!&quot; I say. I am in the fortunate position of not needing to travel for anything but pleasure and since it brings me no pleasure to travel in these conditions I don&#039;t. Me and my money stay home. I will not play that game. It would really have to be life and death situation before I would travel by plane anywhere these days. I also have the misfortune to have a middle eastern surname. Yes, I have considered changing it but personally I think it is the system which needs to change. On the other hand my husband is from overseas and has had to travel periodically for family reasons. We would never be able to travel to the US as for sure we are on some list. My husband is a former political prisoner from a country whose dictator was installed by the US. We both work for peace and freedom for all people everywhere so are regarded as a terrorist threat by our quasi-fascist overlords because we resist them. We are frequently under observation by our own secret service here in another part of the &#039;Free World&#039;. When my husband and children travel we make sure to leave information with contacts in the local and destination Red Cross and Amnesty International offices. I live in dread that any flight they might be on will be diverted through US air space. Many of our friends have had problems dealing with the TSA and other police state encounters.  &lt;br /&gt;Happy birthday your beautiful daughter and thank you for sharing this with us all. What I do I do for my children and for all children everywhere that they may grow up free from privation and fear and reach the full potential of their precious lives. I certainly do not give my children to the state so that they can kill other mother&#039;s children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been a mother I can totally understand how difficult travel with children can be at the best of times. Having to deal with the pretentious claptrap of the police state just to go from A to B would be too much for any sane person. Having said that I am amazed at how bloody compliant and docile  people are. I will not even permit my bag to be searched upon entering or exiting a shop. &quot;Arrest me if you have proof I have stolen or let me be on my way!&quot; I say. I am in the fortunate position of not needing to travel for anything but pleasure and since it brings me no pleasure to travel in these conditions I don&#39;t. Me and my money stay home. I will not play that game. It would really have to be life and death situation before I would travel by plane anywhere these days. I also have the misfortune to have a middle eastern surname. Yes, I have considered changing it but personally I think it is the system which needs to change. On the other hand my husband is from overseas and has had to travel periodically for family reasons. We would never be able to travel to the US as for sure we are on some list. My husband is a former political prisoner from a country whose dictator was installed by the US. We both work for peace and freedom for all people everywhere so are regarded as a terrorist threat by our quasi-fascist overlords because we resist them. We are frequently under observation by our own secret service here in another part of the &#39;Free World&#39;. When my husband and children travel we make sure to leave information with contacts in the local and destination Red Cross and Amnesty International offices. I live in dread that any flight they might be on will be diverted through US air space. Many of our friends have had problems dealing with the TSA and other police state encounters.  <br />Happy birthday your beautiful daughter and thank you for sharing this with us all. What I do I do for my children and for all children everywhere that they may grow up free from privation and fear and reach the full potential of their precious lives. I certainly do not give my children to the state so that they can kill other mother&#39;s children.</p>
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		<title>By: Sibel Edmonds</title>
		<link>http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2009/07/24/the-makings-of-a-police-state-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-1189</link>
		<dc:creator>Sibel Edmonds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ismael: Thank you for sharing your story. I am still chuckling (&#039;the Photo of Geronimo and his Warriors of the Apache resistance on it. Around it is written:Original Department of Homeland Security&lt;br /&gt;Keeping America Safe Since 1492.&#039;)!!! We should offer the readers the link to purchase those shirts online for air travel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ismael: Thank you for sharing your story. I am still chuckling (&#39;the Photo of Geronimo and his Warriors of the Apache resistance on it. Around it is written:Original Department of Homeland Security<br />Keeping America Safe Since 1492.&#39;)!!! We should offer the readers the link to purchase those shirts online for air travel!</p>
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		<title>By: Ishmael</title>
		<link>http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2009/07/24/the-makings-of-a-police-state-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-1188</link>
		<dc:creator>Ishmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two points to add.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.The actual photo of Geronimo was taken at the time of his negotiations with Gen. Crook while they were still in a state of War with the United States. You know, stateless enemy combatants and all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. The lady, Sylvia, who coined the phrase was 1/2 Chiracahua Apache.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems that most of my life, I&#039;ve had at least one friend who was Apache and was actually Trapped In Apache Country on my anniversary one year on the Jicarilla res. But THAT&#039;S another story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two points to add.</p>
<p>1.The actual photo of Geronimo was taken at the time of his negotiations with Gen. Crook while they were still in a state of War with the United States. You know, stateless enemy combatants and all.</p>
<p>2. The lady, Sylvia, who coined the phrase was 1/2 Chiracahua Apache.</p>
<p>It seems that most of my life, I&#39;ve had at least one friend who was Apache and was actually Trapped In Apache Country on my anniversary one year on the Jicarilla res. But THAT&#39;S another story.</p>
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		<title>By: Ishmael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ishmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting stuff. I would love to know how to embed videos here. That said, here&#039;s my TSA story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I purposely renewed my driver&#039;s license for 8 years in 2006 because they were switching to RFID/RealID licenses in 2007. I have never applied for a passport for the same reason. In Aug. 2007, I took my wife on a belated second honeymoon cruise to Alaska from Seattle with a stop in Victoria, BC. The original DHS rule requiring passports for Canada and Mexico was scheduled to go into effect in July of that year but was delayed to September, so i figured, &quot;No worries&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What I had neglected to check was my wife&#039;s ID that had expired that Feb. Since she&#039;s been a semi-invalid, self-professed anchorite for years and had had a mini stroke in April, it kinda got lost in the shuffle. So the big day comes, I load her, me, our bags, her wheelchair, homemade wooden cane and medication along with our ID&#039;s and birth certificate copies and off we go on our great adventure. since I&#039;ve had to deal with her semi-invalid status for some time I&#039;m used to going through the &quot;suspicious person&quot; section for the wheelchair and her meds. Strangely enough, even though her ID had expired, the air trips to and from Seattle actually went smoothly. I think part of it is I always wear one of my US Navy ship&#039;s ball caps from the ships I served aboard, plus her ID DID have her picture on it even though it was expired. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our problem was coming back to Seattle from the ship. the US customs at the Seattle Piers kept us in the Third-World section for about an hour while they evaluated our status while each person in the chain of command told me her ID was expired. So I would politely explain that, while that WAS true, The fact that it WAS her picture on the ID and all it&#039;s information matched MY ID, we could assume with a great deal of confidence that it WAS,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.Her.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.My Wife&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3.An American Citizen&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Plus I don&#039;t think they really wanted to be seen overtly harassing a White Veteran and his invalid White wife in a wheelchair.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We finally made it through the gauntlet and actually made our connecting flight home to New Mexico. But it was a lesson. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So when I had to travel by air to Indiana last summer for a job interview alone, I decided to play with their heads. I bought one of those t-shirts with the Photo of Geronimo and his Warriors of the Apache resistance on it. Around it is written:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Original Department of Homeland Security&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keeping America Safe Since 1492.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wore that shirt and my ubiquitous Navy ball cap on both legs of the trip. Strangely, the TSA people actually LIKED the shirt and sort of identified with it instead of realizing it was a satire ON them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was just another illustration of an adage told by a woman I knew 20 years ago and first confirmed when GW Bush was elected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The World Is Run By &quot;C&quot; Students.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting stuff. I would love to know how to embed videos here. That said, here&#39;s my TSA story.</p>
<p>I purposely renewed my driver&#39;s license for 8 years in 2006 because they were switching to RFID/RealID licenses in 2007. I have never applied for a passport for the same reason. In Aug. 2007, I took my wife on a belated second honeymoon cruise to Alaska from Seattle with a stop in Victoria, BC. The original DHS rule requiring passports for Canada and Mexico was scheduled to go into effect in July of that year but was delayed to September, so i figured, &quot;No worries&quot;.</p>
<p>What I had neglected to check was my wife&#39;s ID that had expired that Feb. Since she&#39;s been a semi-invalid, self-professed anchorite for years and had had a mini stroke in April, it kinda got lost in the shuffle. So the big day comes, I load her, me, our bags, her wheelchair, homemade wooden cane and medication along with our ID&#39;s and birth certificate copies and off we go on our great adventure. since I&#39;ve had to deal with her semi-invalid status for some time I&#39;m used to going through the &quot;suspicious person&quot; section for the wheelchair and her meds. Strangely enough, even though her ID had expired, the air trips to and from Seattle actually went smoothly. I think part of it is I always wear one of my US Navy ship&#39;s ball caps from the ships I served aboard, plus her ID DID have her picture on it even though it was expired. </p>
<p>Our problem was coming back to Seattle from the ship. the US customs at the Seattle Piers kept us in the Third-World section for about an hour while they evaluated our status while each person in the chain of command told me her ID was expired. So I would politely explain that, while that WAS true, The fact that it WAS her picture on the ID and all it&#39;s information matched MY ID, we could assume with a great deal of confidence that it WAS,</p>
<p>1.Her.</p>
<p>2.My Wife</p>
<p>3.An American Citizen</p>
<p>Plus I don&#39;t think they really wanted to be seen overtly harassing a White Veteran and his invalid White wife in a wheelchair.</p>
<p>We finally made it through the gauntlet and actually made our connecting flight home to New Mexico. But it was a lesson. </p>
<p>So when I had to travel by air to Indiana last summer for a job interview alone, I decided to play with their heads. I bought one of those t-shirts with the Photo of Geronimo and his Warriors of the Apache resistance on it. Around it is written:</p>
<p>Original Department of Homeland Security</p>
<p>Keeping America Safe Since 1492.</p>
<p>I wore that shirt and my ubiquitous Navy ball cap on both legs of the trip. Strangely, the TSA people actually LIKED the shirt and sort of identified with it instead of realizing it was a satire ON them.</p>
<p>It was just another illustration of an adage told by a woman I knew 20 years ago and first confirmed when GW Bush was elected.</p>
<p><b>The World Is Run By &quot;C&quot; Students.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on Sibel!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   &quot;You know how the terrorists used airplanes and lack of airport security to blow up and kill thousands of our people…’&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   If you give them their 9/11 scenario you have to accept that every single day they will use it to justify robbing the treasury, making wars and taking away your liberties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on Sibel!</p>
<p>   &quot;You know how the terrorists used airplanes and lack of airport security to blow up and kill thousands of our people…’</p>
<p>   If you give them their 9/11 scenario you have to accept that every single day they will use it to justify robbing the treasury, making wars and taking away your liberties.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bergman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bergman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That baby must have been doing something suspicious.</description>
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		<title>By: Edit_Mommies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edit_Mommies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The protocols discussed as airport policy sound more like biological controls rather than philosophical justice.</description>
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		<title>By: Sibel Edmonds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sibel Edmonds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon: Thank you for sharing your personal experience.Welcome to openness!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anon: &quot;although the real villains running around this country have got that routine down pretty good too&quot; Sadly true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Woozle: &quot;but totally ineffective at even the minimal goal of preventing known terrorists from flying...&quot; Absolutely. A new documentary on this will be out soon; my former FAA Red Team whistleblower members are aprt of this fantastic film. There is a part on &#039;removing shoes&#039; and how it is simply a useless stupid procedure...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Janet: Thank you. They may be among my twitter followers; I am not sure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon: Thank you for sharing your personal experience.Welcome to openness!</p>
<p>Anon: &quot;although the real villains running around this country have got that routine down pretty good too&quot; Sadly true.</p>
<p>Woozle: &quot;but totally ineffective at even the minimal goal of preventing known terrorists from flying&#8230;&quot; Absolutely. A new documentary on this will be out soon; my former FAA Red Team whistleblower members are aprt of this fantastic film. There is a part on &#39;removing shoes&#39; and how it is simply a useless stupid procedure&#8230;</p>
<p>Janet: Thank you. They may be among my twitter followers; I am not sure&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sibel- Will submit to Daily Paul. Thank you for the video clip.--Janet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sibel- Will submit to Daily Paul. Thank you for the video clip.&#8211;Janet</p>
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		<title>By: Woozle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woozle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Somewhere in there I left out a line or two about airport security in the 1970s, when metal detectors were just coming into common practice and you could walk out to the gate without a ticket. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My use of the phrase &quot;since then&quot; refers to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Somewhere in there I left out a line or two about airport security in the 1970s, when metal detectors were just coming into common practice and you could walk out to the gate without a ticket. </p>
<p>My use of the phrase &quot;since then&quot; refers to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Woozle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woozle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are few things that I find as disturbing and upsetting as the insane level to which &lt;a href=&quot;http://issuepedia.org/Airport_security&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;airport &quot;safety&quot;&lt;/a&gt; is now being taken. The fact that most of it is not only unnecessary (based on false suppositions) but &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.archive.org/web/20071225064401/http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=187795&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;totally ineffective&lt;/a&gt; at even the minimal goal of preventing known terrorists from flying.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m lucky enough to be in a position where I don&#039;t have to fly frequently, but even so the idea of having to submit to that nonsense is a major aversion factor to even considering a trip involving a flight.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems to me an obvious principle in a free society that if a regulation is secret, then you don&#039;t have to follow it. If they can&#039;t show it to you in writing (and give you a copy of it to take home for future reference, then it isn&#039;t a rule, but an arbitrary imposition. If such a rule is the sole justification for detaining someone or searching them, then that is &quot;arbitrary search and seizure&quot;. My understanding is that the US Constitution is &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fairly specific&lt;/a&gt; about such matters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is there any legal background for this? If &quot;secret regulations&quot; have been upheld as valid and binding upon those who are not party to them, then that is one clear indicator that we have in fact crossed the line into a police state.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Personally, I&#039;d rather take the minimal risk of being on a flight that was taken over by terrorists than put up with all the &quot;security&quot; which has been imposed since then. There&#039;s no evidence I&#039;m aware of that these measures have decreased the relative risk of airplane-related terrorism as compared to other forms, and I don&#039;t know where to find reliable data on the general incidence of terrorism events worldwide. Even if it has increased dramatically, however, I&#039;m very skeptical of the idea that we should barricade ourselves and allow ourselves to be herded like prisoners in the never-ending Holy War on Terror.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are few things that I find as disturbing and upsetting as the insane level to which <a href="http://issuepedia.org/Airport_security" rel="nofollow">airport &quot;safety&quot;</a> is now being taken. The fact that most of it is not only unnecessary (based on false suppositions) but <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20071225064401/http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=187795" rel="nofollow">totally ineffective</a> at even the minimal goal of preventing known terrorists from flying.</p>
<p>I&#39;m lucky enough to be in a position where I don&#39;t have to fly frequently, but even so the idea of having to submit to that nonsense is a major aversion factor to even considering a trip involving a flight.</p>
<p>It seems to me an obvious principle in a free society that if a regulation is secret, then you don&#39;t have to follow it. If they can&#39;t show it to you in writing (and give you a copy of it to take home for future reference, then it isn&#39;t a rule, but an arbitrary imposition. If such a rule is the sole justification for detaining someone or searching them, then that is &quot;arbitrary search and seizure&quot;. My understanding is that the US Constitution is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution" rel="nofollow">fairly specific</a> about such matters.</p>
<p>Is there any legal background for this? If &quot;secret regulations&quot; have been upheld as valid and binding upon those who are not party to them, then that is one clear indicator that we have in fact crossed the line into a police state.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#39;d rather take the minimal risk of being on a flight that was taken over by terrorists than put up with all the &quot;security&quot; which has been imposed since then. There&#39;s no evidence I&#39;m aware of that these measures have decreased the relative risk of airplane-related terrorism as compared to other forms, and I don&#39;t know where to find reliable data on the general incidence of terrorism events worldwide. Even if it has increased dramatically, however, I&#39;m very skeptical of the idea that we should barricade ourselves and allow ourselves to be herded like prisoners in the never-ending Holy War on Terror.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must admit that I have mixed feelings about airport security measures.  In the first place, I hate to fly and avoid airports like the plague.  Since 9/11, I have never found myself on a watchlist, but I have had to go through the special check-in, which I thought was random and somewhat amusing.  Also, I have personally known an individual or two from the Middle East whom I would love to see on a no-fly list, I must admit.  Instead these individuals seem to be treated like priviliged characters by certain government agencies for whatever reason.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Certainly, absolutely, without question, people have a right to know why they are on such a list or why they are made to do whatever they are expected to do.  But I think Sibel Edmonds confronting airport security is not the same thing as an average person confronting airport security.  Most people definitely would prefer to avoid confrontation, which doesn&#039;t mean that they don&#039;t want to or wouldn&#039;t retaliate in some way at some time.  I was advised as a young student, that when one finds oneself dealing with a petty tyrant, the first thing to do is get their name or their badge number and their supervisor&#039;s name.  That is usually an effective way to deal with obnoxious, unreasonable individuals (in this country anyway) if one can do it without being obnoxious oneself.  Dealing with a tyrannical government is another story that would take some organized effort to deal with, I am sure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All that being said, I think it takes an enormous amount of courage to be a whistleblower....although the real villains running around this country have got that routine down pretty good too.  It&#039;s a complicated world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must admit that I have mixed feelings about airport security measures.  In the first place, I hate to fly and avoid airports like the plague.  Since 9/11, I have never found myself on a watchlist, but I have had to go through the special check-in, which I thought was random and somewhat amusing.  Also, I have personally known an individual or two from the Middle East whom I would love to see on a no-fly list, I must admit.  Instead these individuals seem to be treated like priviliged characters by certain government agencies for whatever reason.  </p>
<p>Certainly, absolutely, without question, people have a right to know why they are on such a list or why they are made to do whatever they are expected to do.  But I think Sibel Edmonds confronting airport security is not the same thing as an average person confronting airport security.  Most people definitely would prefer to avoid confrontation, which doesn&#39;t mean that they don&#39;t want to or wouldn&#39;t retaliate in some way at some time.  I was advised as a young student, that when one finds oneself dealing with a petty tyrant, the first thing to do is get their name or their badge number and their supervisor&#39;s name.  That is usually an effective way to deal with obnoxious, unreasonable individuals (in this country anyway) if one can do it without being obnoxious oneself.  Dealing with a tyrannical government is another story that would take some organized effort to deal with, I am sure.</p>
<p>All that being said, I think it takes an enormous amount of courage to be a whistleblower&#8230;.although the real villains running around this country have got that routine down pretty good too.  It&#39;s a complicated world.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy did you hit a nerve on this one.  Last Christmas, I too, was ready to fly home to be with my 86-year-old mother.  I had booked my ticket online, prepared to get an online boarding pass, and encountered my first glitch.  The shuttle gave me barely enough time to get to the airport and check in normally. At the airport I tried to do self service check in.  Three different ways and it failed. I called the lead hostess for Delta over.  She guided me to a customer counter.  Too late, I had missed my flight.  But the reason was even more astounding, I was on a &#039;watch list&#039;.  I just barely made a flight 3 hours later and at an extra $50 cost.  After the experience was over, I applied to TSA and Homeland security for reimbursement of my $50 and long distance phone call to waiting parties.  Request denied.  Reason: it would be admission by the U.S. government of interference in citizen rights, the only way an effective lawsuit can be lodged against TSA.  It did not matter that I had no intention of pursuing litigation.  I have to speculate why I was placed on the watch list, since this was not revealed.  As a Quaker, active in protesting war recruitment, and work with Native Americans - I have long been a person on interest.  I have never knowingly violated the law.  Recent trips to the Canadian border resulted in extreme harassment for no legal reason, but that is another story.  Yes, I have first hand knowledge that we live in a police state.  Since I no longer teach, I can be more open about this, just as retired admirals can be more open.  The real question is what can we do, us frogs sitting here as the water slowly warms to boiling?  I hope the next part is also appropriate to this webblog.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Paramagnetism and electromagnetic field theory for MSM&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Daniel 11:24”... yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strongholds even for a time.”&lt;br /&gt; Routers and key word algorithms are just the tip of an array of control mechanisms used by MSM.  Split tone frequencies, known as &#039;beat frequencies&#039; are used for brain wave entrainment.  Psychoactive frequencies can be piggybacked on any carrier frequency.  These were first developed by the U.S. Office of Naval Surface Weaponry and remained in the open literature until the early seventies.  &lt;br /&gt; Of course, Tibetan and shamanic cultures have a long history of refined psychoactive use.  &#039;Men Who Stare at Goats&#039; documents the early history of remote viewing at Fort Meade.  Two generations of remote viewers were trained before the operation went black, and was &#039;officially&#039; closed down.  Technical aspects for the&lt;br /&gt;interested reader can be referenced through the research of Johnjoe McFadden, Joseph Kirschvink, and Robert C. Beck.  &lt;br /&gt; Simple defensive postures can be developed by a still mind and recognition that the iron in the blood in the brain forms a natural Faraday cage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy did you hit a nerve on this one.  Last Christmas, I too, was ready to fly home to be with my 86-year-old mother.  I had booked my ticket online, prepared to get an online boarding pass, and encountered my first glitch.  The shuttle gave me barely enough time to get to the airport and check in normally. At the airport I tried to do self service check in.  Three different ways and it failed. I called the lead hostess for Delta over.  She guided me to a customer counter.  Too late, I had missed my flight.  But the reason was even more astounding, I was on a &#39;watch list&#39;.  I just barely made a flight 3 hours later and at an extra $50 cost.  After the experience was over, I applied to TSA and Homeland security for reimbursement of my $50 and long distance phone call to waiting parties.  Request denied.  Reason: it would be admission by the U.S. government of interference in citizen rights, the only way an effective lawsuit can be lodged against TSA.  It did not matter that I had no intention of pursuing litigation.  I have to speculate why I was placed on the watch list, since this was not revealed.  As a Quaker, active in protesting war recruitment, and work with Native Americans &#8211; I have long been a person on interest.  I have never knowingly violated the law.  Recent trips to the Canadian border resulted in extreme harassment for no legal reason, but that is another story.  Yes, I have first hand knowledge that we live in a police state.  Since I no longer teach, I can be more open about this, just as retired admirals can be more open.  The real question is what can we do, us frogs sitting here as the water slowly warms to boiling?  I hope the next part is also appropriate to this webblog.</p>
<p> Paramagnetism and electromagnetic field theory for MSM</p>
<p>Daniel 11:24”&#8230; yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strongholds even for a time.”<br /> Routers and key word algorithms are just the tip of an array of control mechanisms used by MSM.  Split tone frequencies, known as &#39;beat frequencies&#39; are used for brain wave entrainment.  Psychoactive frequencies can be piggybacked on any carrier frequency.  These were first developed by the U.S. Office of Naval Surface Weaponry and remained in the open literature until the early seventies.  <br /> Of course, Tibetan and shamanic cultures have a long history of refined psychoactive use.  &#39;Men Who Stare at Goats&#39; documents the early history of remote viewing at Fort Meade.  Two generations of remote viewers were trained before the operation went black, and was &#39;officially&#39; closed down.  Technical aspects for the<br />interested reader can be referenced through the research of Johnjoe McFadden, Joseph Kirschvink, and Robert C. Beck.  <br /> Simple defensive postures can be developed by a still mind and recognition that the iron in the blood in the brain forms a natural Faraday cage.</p>
<p>Simon</p>
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