You are one of my American heros. We should all be more like you.

Thanks again.

The suggestion that a decade long FBI surveillance operation carried out at HQ and independently in Chicago can be covered up – reveals total ignorance of the frailty, incompetence, and imbecility of our intelligence community. If Edmonds could do it, so could ten other boy-scouts. Curiously, neither Mrs. Edmonds, nor her strongest partisans here, choose to answer any of my questions, except Kingfisher who mentions RAND.

One look at procurement requiring security clearance at a range of departments reveals that RAND may posses just a bit less valuable information than a single large corporate contractor. But I wont belabor this, as I am curious to see what I've missed.

But I get the picture, talk of democracy, prison state, and corruption is only good when it goes one way. Asking questions that go to the heart of the matter, is about as anathema here, and to Mrs. Edmonds, as asking the same questions of the government – at least in Edmond's words.

Hypocrisy exposed?

But then I always maintained, there is zero dedication to any ideals here at 123, it's sheer whistleblowing entrepreneurship, footloose and untethered to any national ideal. Hence all the self-hate stuff. Bravo.

It's been a comparatively quiet day here in Pittsburgh for the G20 conference. 800 protesters compared with 35,000 in London, riots in Seattle, etc. Can't say as I'm really surprised. I guess Pittsburgh just isn't that important or high profile enough to waste time and money protesting here. (It must really piss people off that we keep winning the superbowl and stanley cup… lol)

Oh well… I'm going back out to play with the National Guard tanks rolling through town everywhere. It's rather surrealistic.

Especially on the heels of a dozen county sheriff's "accidentally" coming through my door at 6:15am a couple mornings back looking for a fugitive who was staying at a neighbors' place… "Oops… wrong address. But we aren't sorry… "

No… really.

bh

PS ~ Sorry, Dad… I know it would make you proud (finally), but, I have no intention of getting myself arrested. Nothing personal, but, somehow I don't think it would help my pending contracts or job app's. Maybe someday when I'm retired and no longer need to earn a living…

I'm not sure if you are crying ebcause you haven't read the article or because you haven't been able to obtain your own copy of the mag for posterity, but…

if you haven't read it, the full body of the interview is available, for free, here:

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/01/00006/

bh

The 911 commission report failed to mention the 6.5second total 'collapse' of a 47 storied steel framed highrise. At least 2secs. of which was free-fall.Thats not a bad footnote miss. It failed to include public testimony of Norman Maneta whos statements on record totally confused Dick Cheneys account of the Pentagon strike, in fact giving evidence of Cheney ALLOWING what ever struck the Pentagon TO DO SO. It has been recorded by its own members to having been under the control of Phillip Zelikow to a maximum degree;not bad given the partisan nature of its membership anyway, and was exposed this year as having had bush administration 'minders' interfering to the point of aggression in interview situations. It based a large percentage of its storyline on the 'evidence' tortured out of one man .KSM. waterboarded over 100 times. David Ray Griffins excellent book 'Omissions and Distortions" deconstruct this report with academic rigor and leave no doubts about its direction.
The notion that this 'prolific report' might be able to 'miss' information streams not suited to its preconceived outcome should hardly be an issue here.

remo

"Gee, doesn't Schakowsky sound exactly like Hastert?"

I remember a time not too long ago when Undemocratic Underground and Daily Krap were totally gung-ho for Sibel's story. And I knew exactly why they were so gung-ho: Because it was partisan.

Well, now partisan is on the other foot, isn't it? It should be blindingly clear to everyone that the Demopublicans are cut from the very same cloth as the Republocrats.

I never forget that it was the Democrats who gave more weapons to Turkey during the Clinton administration than Turkey received from the US in all the combined years of the Cold War, and those weapons were used to murder well over 40,000 Kurdish civilians, forcibly displace millions more, and destroy some 4,000 villages.

And if people are going to be willingly blind to the obvious, then I hope the Turks (and the Israelis) continue to screw over the US like they have been doing for YEARS.

waaaaaaa

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×6611428

Comments Sibel?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/23/785500/-FBI-Whistleblower-says-Neocons-Negotiated-Iraq-Invasion-with-Foreign-Agents-in-Summer-2001

Individual employees at RAND would hold TS/SCI clearances, they probably have some with Q clearances. In fact it probably has one of the highest concentration of people with such clearances in the private sector. It is not illogical that employees there would be a significant intelligence target.

I would also note that Steve Rosen, perhaps by coincidence, spent four years working at RAND before he left to work at AIPAC.

But did you see the following story?

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/23/turkish-diplomats-cause-scuffle-around-obama/

What do you make of this? I think it's ominous. Is it some kind of warning to the President? Exceedingly strange how this highly irregular breach of the president's security follows so closely upon the heels of your specific revelations this past weekend concerning Congressional and Executive Branch corruption by the Turkish Lobby. Call me a nut, but…Wow!

Fainter

You mean like that "very big sting operation" carried out by Anglo-American intelligence agencies, covering three decades of the A.Q.Khan proliferation network, facilitating it and allowing it to prosper until Libya decided not to play ball any more in 2003?

Simon

The comment section pretty much sums it up…

Anyone know what "Bin Ladens" plural was referring to? Relatives in on the covert activities? Or other like figures? Am I correctly inferring that this includes "the" Bin Laden himself? I remember the claims about Bin Laden's relatives being flown out of the U.S. shortly after 9/11 supposedly over concerns for their safety.

Congratulations Mrs. Edmonds. Finally, you are speaking openly. I though it was high-time to challenge that state secrets privilege nonsense. I doubt anyone can do anything to silence you, when you decide to speak fully.

I also appreciate your venue – Pat may not like neocons, but he represents the best of America – values, freedom, identity. Sorry for your readers who have an ideological revulsion to sound thought.

That said I want to ask a few questions-

What do you base your statements on? Your FBI briefings on the case, or secondary sources?

1) You claim Grossman was removed from Turkey due to the Susurluk scandal. How do you know this?

2) You claim Perle and Feith had an access list for the Pentagon – again, where did you get this info?

3) Dr. Sabri Sayari a spy? When you say "widely considered" what do you mean?

4) Describing the information that was given to Turks, what exactly are we talking about here? Can you give one concrete example of the information transferred? Not by source, but content?

5) Pre-911 discussions of Iraq invasion. What are your sources? You mention the usual culprits, but you weren't at the FBI. You are suggesting the FBI had taped such exchanges, months before 911?

6) Students paid for spying at laboratories? Again, what do you base this on? This sounds unlikely. Why would they have to be paid, when all it takes is requesting that they bring back materials to the professor under various pretexts?

7) If you were privy to conversations about Central Asia and Jihadi groups, why can't you ascertain the identity of the conversants? If it wasn't the CIA, or any state agency, then why implicate our government? Who is "they"?? Not DOS, not DOD, not CIA…in fact, is it anyone even remotely connected to the US?!

The word corruption, has legal implications. But you don't mention one case that could be considered as "corruption". You are also attributing criminal conduct to various player, but what do you base this on. If something is carried out with an executive order – within the confines of international law – what kind of criminality is construed?

Two pointers Mrs. Edmonds.

1) You are suggesting that one regional FBI and headquarters were involved in decade long surveillance of people intimately involved with forces behind 911, the Iraq invasion, and "corruption" in the government, yet failed to squeeze in even a footnote about such surveillance in the prolific 911 report. You are either discussing the biggest cover-up in history, requiring insane efforts, or more likely, you are undermining a very very big sting operation.

2) RAND does research for many institutions, most of it confidential. Recently they did a piracy study for the MPAA. They have neither the capacity nor centrality to provide information that would be worth 400,000 dollars to anyone. At best, the fools who paid that much, were had.

Which basically points to one conclusion: you still don't understand something basic about how our government functions – AIPAC is an appendage of the government, not vice versa. G2B and G2NGO doesn't only flow one way.

http://www.911truth.org/

and this time with a direct and unrestricted link to the full article.

They are featuring this story big-time (which is not surprising, considering its content).

Regards,
"Tom Joad"

"…what is significant … is the idea of ensuring American power by blocking the emergence of future powers."

BINGO!

Ironically (or perhaps not), many people would probably say that that is a good thing…

bh

Encore!! Encore!!

Keep up the great work, Sibel.

YT,

bh

Simon

What a farce Guantanamo and this supposedly war on terror is. Here you are, providing information, exposing acts of treason, exposing threats to national security, drug smuggling, money laundering, corruption, etc. and nobody in power or the Media touches it. If one of detainees revealed some of this information, what would they do with it?

Unfortunately, the parties involved in this web of corruption are all too powerful and it’s reasonable to assume that nothing will ever come of it but keep putting the truth out there, some of us are paying attention.

Check out:

Perle Linked to Kurdish Oil Plan, by Susan Schmidt and Glenn R. Simpson. The Wall Street Journal, 29 July 2008.

Do we know what companies Perle works for? It's not the homonymously named Pearl Petroleum Limited is it? That would be really cheesey.

It is a significant factor. They would argue that American interests and Israeli interests are shared, and what is good for Israel is good for America.

I would note the divergence of the Jim Baker-Big Oil crowd from the neocons mentioned in the article. Those guys do not necessarily care about Israel; the neocon plans of creating small states and privatizing oilfields is counter to Big Oil’s interest. Oil is for the most part a government business; big oil wants to keep it that way because governments can control prices but companies cannot.

Creating small states and privatizing oil, where small oil companies would come in and produce at a rate of maximum extraction would flood the market. Flooding the market like this would help break the back of OPEC and the Arabs, which Israel would like to see. Notice how Perle works with small independent oil companies in Kurdistan, and not for the big boys.

For part of the intellectual origins of the blood borders scheme see The Zionist Plan for the Middle East by Oded Yinon from the winter 1982 issue of Kivunim.

People get hung up on PNAC, and especially the "new Peal Harbor" part. I don't read to much into that; what is significant about PNAC's aims is the idea of ensuring American power by blocking the emergence of future powers.

Man these are some scary people. Let's not forget the (2000?) PNAC document almost calling for a "New Pearl Harbor".

With what Sibel's already mentioned and aparently that can be proved, it's not hard to stretch the imagination about what would be done in the name for security for Israel. Is that what they're really about?

That Northern part that the appointed civilians at DoD did not want to have as Turkish protectorate, would be the independent Kurdistan I had mentioned.

And it wouldn't have been exclusive to Northern Iraq; the point would be to re-draw the middle east, it would carve into Iran and Syria (likely Turkey too). That's what Clean Break was about – re-drawing the ME; Iraq got the ball rolling.

This stuff was discussed earlier than the four months before 9/11. Like I said, Clean Break was one public iteration of it; but it goes back to at least 1980's Israeli strategic theory.

What strikes me is the pre-9/11 business discussions regarding the division of Iraq and, at the same time, the drug-running, NATO-planing, Bin Ladening, American Government connections. Just wow.

I hope they offer you your job back after they put some of these f'ers in prison. Maybe we'll need to release some non-violent drug offenders in order to make space.

http://www.911truth.org/

And the interview itself ("Who's Afraid of Sibel Edmonds?") has plenty to interest them.

http://amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/01/00006/

Regards,
"Tom Joad"

http://amconmag.com/issue/2009/nov/01/

Please post and/or disseminate if you can.

Thank You

Any idea if other links wil be available to your interview? My understanding is as long as you don't make money directly off it (links etc.)it's public domain content.

Thanks,
T

I am back from Blacksburg, VA. Looooong car ride.

I'll respond to your comments later today. Meanwhile:Today BradBlog is going to run a piece on ACM's upcoming cover story. The story will be out tomorrow morning, after their press release. I'll keep you posted.
More later…

I first read about your plight in "Rubicon" Sibel. It's the bravery and integrity of people like you that change the world, often without thanks, always at a cost. So… thank you!

Where can those of us who live in mid-America find a copy? Do the big bookstore chains carry it?

Is it possible for the interview to be posted on the WWW so we might read it?

It would be great if we could post the link to other sites we frequent hopefully getting your story out.

We are well aware of how the truth is being clamped down and the web seems to be one of the only ways it might get into the consciousness of the American people, who are drugged by the vapid empty MSM which props up whatever conspiracy is out there running our world.

Sibel, you rule!!!!

Ever since the first time I heard about you, I dreamed this day would come.

Who cares about the MSM in this country! The more this story gets out to the rest of the world, the sillier our lapdog press will look, and the noose will just keep getting tighter and tighter.

You ARE a true American hero!!

http://www.911truth.org/

features the Brad Blog's story:

"Explosive Sibel Edmonds Cover Story at 'The American Conservative':
4,000 word exclusive interview with 'the gagged FBI whistleblower on espionage, al-Qaeda, and secrets for sale'…"

Regards,
"Tom Joad"

Kudos to the American Conservative, who also has James Bovard as one of it's writers. He's been called so many names by the FBI, and by so many other government agencies. They do something right.
Looking forward to reading the article Sibel. How's the family??

I just gave you advice to do something you've been doing for quite a while.

http://123realchange.blogspot.com/2009/07/announcing-sibel-edmonds-podcast-show.html

Obviously, I'm new here.

You have a wonderful opportunity now to help unravel some of the tangled webs woven over the past decade.

Maybe you could start interviewing others here on your blog, via video or telephone, people who can add to the total picture and help you piece together this puzzle of intrigue, deception and treason.

No doubt, you know more than one "witness" who has been ignored, marginalized and/or intimidated into unwilling silence.

Your newfound media credibility might bring some of those people out from their imposed obscurity.

It wouldn't be unwise to do this work from a place of "virtual" safety, like your blog.

And I have to add, with all humble appreciation. THANK YOU for what you do.

Keep after em'.

Viva la Blogs!

Thank you for your tireless efforts.

You are a TRUE PATRIOT. You are the BRAVEST public person, albeit silenced by agenda, that I know.

OUR prayers are with you. Ron Paul R3VOLution and 9/11Truth support you one million percent.

We need to clarify and educate the public as to the globalist imperialist agenda of the Military Ind.Complex and the banksters that openly and arrogantly fund them.

There is, for now, a peaceful R3VOLution of infowars afoot. However, I fear if your efforts and those of ours do not succeed in allowing proper debate to happen amongst the American citizenry, and peaceful redress of grievances are not allowed to go forth, it may deteriorate quickly, especially in light of current economic malaise cause by the banksters, but left on our doorsteps for us to take care of their criminality.

Unfortunately, we have a perfect storm of political apparatus for them to declare martial law: two officially Constitutionally undeclared wars, and many more undeclared, like Pakistan, Somalia, etc., previous regime's unConstitutionalities and war crimes EXPANDED and ACCELERATED under the current oBUSHma regime, falseflag flu pandemic hysteria, NORTHCOM putting Federal troops on the ground "aiding" federalized local police doing DUI roadblock checks, in effect, acclimating the public to accept their illegal presence "mandate," in FULL VIOLATION of the Posse Commitatus Act of 1878, constant race baiting when confronted with legitimate political dissent of UNCONSTITUTIONAL policies, economic downturn, and the coming dollar collapse with the prospect of hyperinflation and/or hyper-stagflation knocking on our doors, and when and if the H.R.1207/S.604 passes and the federal as FederalExpress, Federal Reserve is audited, and the public finds out for the first time what the Fed.Reserve actually is, and has done with OUR WEALTH under the current administration and their complicity in fully and intentionally aiding the siphoning off of, THEFT of, 24 TRILLION Dollars, in less than 7 months, on behalf of GoldmanSachs and his other Wall St. bankster puppet masters.

The revelation of your knowledge cannot come soon enough.

We are forever in the debt of those of you endowed with morality, conscience and good soul, whom volunteer to work for civil services, only to have your native goodness used against you, by those entrenched in gvt, whose sole purpose is to maintain and retain power, and NOT serve us, the American Citizenry, their employers.

However, by now, it should be clear to anyone at this point that our gvt has been hijacked by bankster elites and their sycophantic minions.

I am so grateful for your sincerity and your unceasing fight for the truth to have its day; even if the sheeple may not want it now, like an inflatable balloon, the more the truth is suppressed, the more eagerly it wants to rise to the surface.

Thank you. Thank you. Truly our prayers are with you.

That compliment mainstream Israeli/Jewish lobby disinfo outlets like FUZ, CNN and that 'Old Grey Lady' who likes to bury stories about Israel that don't shine a soft light on genocide and ethnic cleansing.

What did someone once say, America is one of the best educated, but least informed societies in the world?

We're not only ignorant, but damn proud of that fact and we'll fight to stay that way…. just ask Iraqi's… and Afghans…. and Pakistani's…… those who are still alive.

FWIW, American Conservative endorsed John Kerry in 2004.

Phil Giraldi is great. I don't agree with all his views, as I am a liberal too, but he's the only journalist who is really pushing this story.

I really hope Amy Goodman will pick up on Sibel's story again. I would love to see a joint interview with Phil and Sibel. I don't remember if we ever had that before.

Thanks for your efforts, Sibel.

http://www.whorunsgov.com/User:xxxMadam

Thank you.
xxx

I'm dropping your name in some blog posts that I'm doing on various MSM sites.

What's your competititon?:
18% of the neocons in New Jersey think Obama is the AntiChrist.

What Paris Hilton has for lunch is big "news."

Maybe I should cancel the TV half of my cable bill? Also, how do you continue to cope with the frustration of not being heard? I speak out on various issues. And after a certain point I re-thought my activism. Now it's more selective. You're still involved. You just break the problem down into more manageable segments.

Have a nice weekend,
T

I can't wait to buy my own copy.

David Kaiser
historyunfolding.com

As we know the MSM will do everything to see this buried. We can counter it through blogs, twitter, FB…

Thank you for all your support.

My other point: many of those alt media who present their reporting as 'progressive' for 'progressives' happen to be the lap dogs for the lobby and certain agenda-driven establishment. Hopefully soon (after this piece, and after my special podcast interview with a former FBI official, I will start name some of these pseudo progressives, and their records…Stay tuned for that one.

Meanwhile, thank you for your support and encouraging words.

I haven't read the magazine and I'll take your word that they may have some good writers or efen good articles.

I am a progressive and I don't support conservative efforts. Their ideas have been long ago discredited.

I am only interested in truth and critical thinking. I suppose most of the MSM efforts are intolerable to me, the NYT, WAPO and so forth.

I am thrilled that you are able to tell your story and if it is to be found in a conservative organ that might get you more consideration, you certainly deserve it, then go for it. I just won't be paying these people to read it.

But, I wouldn't hold out much hope that the "liberal" media is going to cover your deposition or much of anything else of import to We the People – they're owned, lock, stock and barrel by Empire's ideology.

Anyway, I posted this (well, Brad's version) at COTO Report and can't wait for the article.

I may not agree with all views or articles they have, but they have been nonpartisan, and they've had some very solid important news/editorials. Phil Giraldi writes for them, and he is one of the best editorial writers on issues of importance to me/us. He is not partisan either.

I will have a post on why I agreed to give 'them' the interview, and that will make my points known/clear.

Meanwhile, there are many pseudo liberal alternative outlets with known Israel/Jewish lobby connections and tons of agenda. You can stick with their nonsense and buy into what they've been selling the gullible wannabe activists.