What's more interesting is that Tuncay Guney, who is one of the big witnesses for the Ergenekon trial, is living in an orthodox Jewish community in Toronto. Wayne Madsen had something on that a year ago that wasn't too bad.

I'd like to know why the TC doesn't extradite Guney, if he's as important a witness as he's been made out to be.

Yes, they do, but good luck finding out anything substantial from the MSM.

Sibel's stories about a corrupt and comprised US Congress and the story about Gen. McChrystal wanting another 500,000 troops to fight the 'Wars for Wall Street and Israel' in Afghanistan were buried by the timely release by Obama (with his two poodles, Brown and Sarkozy in tow) about some Iranian building that the WH had known about for years.

More fear mongering was the result of the release of some 'al-CIA-duh' recordings promising dire consequences for Germany if they voted for Merkel's party and it got the desired result, her party is back in power.

Why does the cynic in me think the dead Bin Laden will go back to being worm food until the next pseudo-crisis, where he'll be resurrected, AGAIN, to scare the weak-minded and gullible?

Fear is a great motivator and the wealthy elite use that instead of whips to keep their 'uppity' slaves in line.

Gulen has established around 500 madrasas all around the world

And Israel has established hundreds of Chabad houses around the world, some conveniently near drug producing and smuggling operations.

Remember the Mumbai attacks, where witnesseses saw weapons and ammo being brought into and stored at that Chabad House?

No – because he didn't.

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Looks like you forgot to put the web address in your link for 'his other, more recent donations'. Great research though, as usual.

Simon, I live in the US and have been educated here. Am I part of the Kurdish resistance? It depends on what you mean by that. I am a strong supporter for full political and civil rights for Kurds in all parts of Kurdistan and especially in Turkey because Turkey is the key. That means that I am a DTP and PKK supporter just like the great majority of Kurds in Turkey, including my own family members still in Turkey.

Celebi's donation to Schakowsky is nothing compared to his other, more recent donations, but that and his fundraising for Emanuel show his continued connections to Chicago Democratic politics and I don't see that Schakowsky should have any special immunity in this regard.

The main issue with Schakowsky is that she is from a region of the US that's well-known for its Turkish espionage connections and she was compromised in this regard. Was she willingly compromised, like Jane Harmon was (and whatever happened to that story anyway? Whatever happened to Rosen and Weissman?) That may be another issue as Sibel has clearly and repeatedly stated that she did not know whether or not Schakowsky acted as a result of the compromise.

This leads to the much wider issue of espionage operations and the ability of certain individuals connected to government to be able to leak information to foreign agents that have the ability to carry out classic espionage tactics against those having access to intelligence. Giraldi discusses this best in the Scott Horton interview with Joe Lauria and his points are well taken.

Why won't Americans clean this up? Why do they continue to stand for it? If Schakowsky has to be the sacrificial lamb in order to expose this corruption, so what? She really does sound so much like Dennis Hastert these days.

SanderO, the issues you raise regarding the purpose of this "Turkish intrigue" are legitimate reasons but, as you mention, Turkey is in a very geostrategic location and will be more crucial as more pipelines are built across it to supply Europe with energy resources. I think this goes, again, to the question of the importance of the control of Central Asia as Brzezinski outlined in The Grand Chessboard.

Don't forget the Israeli component of "Turkish intrigue", a component that is routinely silenced in the US. There is also criminal activity wrapped up in Sibel's story, nuclear black market, drug trafficking, in addition to the corruption, bribery and blackmail. What is needed is a public investigation of Sibel's story so that the whole thing is exposed to the light of day and this should not be a controversial proposal, whether someone believes Sibel or not.

If not, then there is, as Giraldi said, a fundamental problem with American democracy, and, as I see it, that means that "democracy" here is in no way different from "democracy" in Turkey.

Your experience 40 years ago may have only been about the promotion of good relations. However, since the Clean Break Strategy, it appears that AIPAC began to mentor the Turkish lobby and it's certain that there's been a new agenda for the Turkish lobby since then.

Kathleen

Is this about making money from weapons and arms sales and ultimately installing a government in Turkey which is controlled by forces within the USA national security state.

Turkey clearly lies in a very strategic geographical location as well as being partly Islamic and partly western, making it more "amenable" to western influence.

I would like the thesis put forth for what this is all about. I don't doubt that probably most pols haven't the slightest hesitation to profit from their position. They can hold good positions on some or many issues and be sell outs. Dobb and Barney Frank are two who come to mind re the financial crisis. Dodd accepted what amounts to legal bribes from Country Wide and others to sway his opinion. But he was pretty good on FISA.

The take away is that bribery, corruption and blackmail are used by "someone(s)" to acheive various agendas.

BTW about 40 yrs ago I got flights from the Turkish American Association and had no idea what the organization did other than the presumption of promote good relations between our countries. Who knew?

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Simon