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	<title>Comments on: Bombing Afghanistan: Where Have All the Photos Gone</title>
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		<title>By: zaknick</title>
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		<dc:creator>zaknick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>holy crap.... Peter asks towards the end &quot;do you feel the water boiling&quot; and I&#039;m wondering just who&#039;s the frog in our situation... funny but not really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy crap&#8230;. Peter asks towards the end &#8220;do you feel the water boiling&#8221; and I&#8217;m wondering just who&#8217;s the frog in our situation&#8230; funny but not really.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting back to the War PICs, I think the Creech, NV Cowards (the Base should be named after the EX NSA/CIA Boss Mikie H.) should be forced to carry and stare at the PICs of the innocents they killed for a week and be forced to pay the victims out of their own pockets blood money. Using a Joystick, a big chair, a big TV Screen with Company and keeping score is playing a Video game and killing and wounding innocents by playing the video game is the act of a Pure, Raw, Coward. Sincerely, ShaJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting back to the War PICs, I think the Creech, NV Cowards (the Base should be named after the EX NSA/CIA Boss Mikie H.) should be forced to carry and stare at the PICs of the innocents they killed for a week and be forced to pay the victims out of their own pockets blood money. Using a Joystick, a big chair, a big TV Screen with Company and keeping score is playing a Video game and killing and wounding innocents by playing the video game is the act of a Pure, Raw, Coward. Sincerely, ShaJ</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neocon: The Sheeple trust their TVs are telling them the truth about the war (and everything else)- when you and I both know that ain&#039;t happening. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fascism has found the cracks in our system. Criminals have figured out how to milk the government subsidies and war manufacturing is not exempt from this problem. Neither is Big Pharma or the Food Industry or mainstream media etc; it is ALL corrupted. The military is not special or safeguarded from this corruption.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Corporate Fascism is gaining a strong foothold in our country; even small town America where I live is corrupted by it. We are in n BIG trouble! Even if the sheeple majority woke up tomorrow we&#039;d be fighting a losing battle. The kings of the world have returned and they&#039;ll want their slaves like they always do. &quot;Let em eat cake!&quot; Funny thing, their demoralization campaign has succeeded in digressing us back to an &#039;our tribe against their tribe&#039; mentality. So perhaps we deserve kings ruling over us. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And BTW, Neoconservative foreign policy (which is NOT conservative!!!) is the policy of Corporate Fascists in the business of war. It is a sham and a disgrace. It&#039;s nothing to be proud of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neocon: The Sheeple trust their TVs are telling them the truth about the war (and everything else)- when you and I both know that ain&#39;t happening. </p>
<p>Fascism has found the cracks in our system. Criminals have figured out how to milk the government subsidies and war manufacturing is not exempt from this problem. Neither is Big Pharma or the Food Industry or mainstream media etc; it is ALL corrupted. The military is not special or safeguarded from this corruption.</p>
<p>Corporate Fascism is gaining a strong foothold in our country; even small town America where I live is corrupted by it. We are in n BIG trouble! Even if the sheeple majority woke up tomorrow we&#39;d be fighting a losing battle. The kings of the world have returned and they&#39;ll want their slaves like they always do. &quot;Let em eat cake!&quot; Funny thing, their demoralization campaign has succeeded in digressing us back to an &#39;our tribe against their tribe&#39; mentality. So perhaps we deserve kings ruling over us. </p>
<p>And BTW, Neoconservative foreign policy (which is NOT conservative!!!) is the policy of Corporate Fascists in the business of war. It is a sham and a disgrace. It&#39;s nothing to be proud of.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They seem to only want to say, &quot;X Americans killed yesterday&quot; in Afghani. This helps them by subconsciously instilling the desire for retaliation completely missing the point of our activity there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They seem to only want to say, &quot;X Americans killed yesterday&quot; in Afghani. This helps them by subconsciously instilling the desire for retaliation completely missing the point of our activity there.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t those silly Afghan&#039;s watch that &quot;60 Minutes&quot; infomercial featuring General McChryystal saying that all that killing and bombing and torturing of the last eight years was just a big OOPS! and that in the future, we promise to be a more refined and gentler killing machine?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s their fault they don&#039;t watch TV!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If anyone thinks all this murder and mayhem is somehow removed from actual America, just read &quot;Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee&quot; to see how sadistic and brutal we were to the Native Americans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of the 400 treaties we brokered with the Indians, how many do you think we kept?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ZERO.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Besides, who would want to see all that &lt;i&gt;icky&lt;/i&gt; stuff showing burned beyond recognition human bodies when we can watch such excellent fare as &quot;Dancing with the Stars?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just because a majority of the 9/11 Commisioners say they were lied to by the feds, had their investigation blocked by the same and couldn&#039;t call some of the witnesses they wanted doesn&#039;t mean anything!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;America got a hard iron on 9/11 and by God, someone&#039;s going to get it good and hard.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Ya&#039; hear that Iran!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#39;t those silly Afghan&#39;s watch that &quot;60 Minutes&quot; infomercial featuring General McChryystal saying that all that killing and bombing and torturing of the last eight years was just a big OOPS! and that in the future, we promise to be a more refined and gentler killing machine?</p>
<p>It&#39;s their fault they don&#39;t watch TV!!!</p>
<p>If anyone thinks all this murder and mayhem is somehow removed from actual America, just read &quot;Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee&quot; to see how sadistic and brutal we were to the Native Americans.</p>
<p>Of the 400 treaties we brokered with the Indians, how many do you think we kept?</p>
<p>ZERO.</p>
<p>Besides, who would want to see all that <i>icky</i> stuff showing burned beyond recognition human bodies when we can watch such excellent fare as &quot;Dancing with the Stars?&quot;</p>
<p>Just because a majority of the 9/11 Commisioners say they were lied to by the feds, had their investigation blocked by the same and couldn&#39;t call some of the witnesses they wanted doesn&#39;t mean anything!</p>
<p>America got a hard iron on 9/11 and by God, someone&#39;s going to get it good and hard.</p>
<p>&quot;Ya&#39; hear that Iran!&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon the Neocon-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;@Anonymous&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I didn&#039;t know any better, I&#039;d say that the sentiment you express is precisely that which most &quot;Sheeple&quot; -as you call them - express. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s as if you are articulating the philosophy of the sheeple. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s a dangerous slope. And it&#039;s wrong. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We care like hell where are boys are - the truth is that we need to debate where we send them...but we will always have to send them somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon the Neocon-</p>
<p>@Anonymous</p>
<p>If I didn&#39;t know any better, I&#39;d say that the sentiment you express is precisely that which most &quot;Sheeple&quot; -as you call them &#8211; express. </p>
<p>It&#39;s as if you are articulating the philosophy of the sheeple. </p>
<p>It&#39;s a dangerous slope. And it&#39;s wrong. </p>
<p>We care like hell where are boys are &#8211; the truth is that we need to debate where we send them&#8230;but we will always have to send them somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Zica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KF said: &quot;As the saying goes: its the tribes, stupid!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for the poignant Exile link.  While I found myself agreeing with much of what the author said, I worry that this world-view of is somewhat limited, in that it blinds us from anything besides the &#039;strong survive&#039; aspect of evolution.  Supposed Social Darwinism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wonder if there is relatively equal significance in less obviously depict-able motivations and experiences.  The gray areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KF said: &quot;As the saying goes: its the tribes, stupid!&quot;</p>
<p>Thanks for the poignant Exile link.  While I found myself agreeing with much of what the author said, I worry that this world-view of is somewhat limited, in that it blinds us from anything besides the &#39;strong survive&#39; aspect of evolution.  Supposed Social Darwinism.</p>
<p>I wonder if there is relatively equal significance in less obviously depict-able motivations and experiences.  The gray areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What ARE &#039;your tribe&#039; doing over there? Good question, being a long way from home. Determined to force the will , if it can be forced,  or kill if not. But WHY.&lt;br /&gt;Russia is close. China. Oil. All of that, but to get there, what part of the manufactured event of 911, Patriot act,  the lies of WMD and the manipulation of public awareness before, during and thereafter don&#039;t we understand?  The sheep, being in the paddock, suddenly shocked by a vast eruption of violence over on one side do what sheep do. They run. they find the open gate, and they run through it. simple. In this case the gate had WAR ON TERROR:Patriot act:Afghanistan/Iraq writ large above it.[trust in god]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;better than Arbeit macht frei I guess.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who controlled the gate? set it up. Who controlled the explosion. Investigate that. Was Powell ever charged for lying in the UN?  I don&#039;t think so,nor, by the look of it is it likely to happen until somehow a major sheriff of tombstone gets his/her? teeth into this crap and makes it play. Only -shock horror- it hasn&#039;t happened yet. Because people die. Files go missing. Employees change.&lt;br /&gt;Who controls justice? What is justice as the batons and tear gas and electric charges sweep the area?? Who controls NEWS? secrecy is the order of the day. Fear and reward in the Lab.  But Keep talking. Thats really all we can legitimately do on a day by day basis being  sheep,looking for another gate. as I am.  Getting regularly fleeced.&lt;br /&gt;rm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What ARE &#39;your tribe&#39; doing over there? Good question, being a long way from home. Determined to force the will , if it can be forced,  or kill if not. But WHY.<br />Russia is close. China. Oil. All of that, but to get there, what part of the manufactured event of 911, Patriot act,  the lies of WMD and the manipulation of public awareness before, during and thereafter don&#39;t we understand?  The sheep, being in the paddock, suddenly shocked by a vast eruption of violence over on one side do what sheep do. They run. they find the open gate, and they run through it. simple. In this case the gate had WAR ON TERROR:Patriot act:Afghanistan/Iraq writ large above it.[trust in god]</p>
<p>better than Arbeit macht frei I guess.</p>
<p>Who controlled the gate? set it up. Who controlled the explosion. Investigate that. Was Powell ever charged for lying in the UN?  I don&#39;t think so,nor, by the look of it is it likely to happen until somehow a major sheriff of tombstone gets his/her? teeth into this crap and makes it play. Only -shock horror- it hasn&#39;t happened yet. Because people die. Files go missing. Employees change.<br />Who controls justice? What is justice as the batons and tear gas and electric charges sweep the area?? Who controls NEWS? secrecy is the order of the day. Fear and reward in the Lab.  But Keep talking. Thats really all we can legitimately do on a day by day basis being  sheep,looking for another gate. as I am.  Getting regularly fleeced.<br />rm</p>
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		<title>By: Kingfisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kingfisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Sheeple are heartless creatures and the bottom line is they couldn&#039;t care less about the suffering endured by strange foreigners who don&#039;t speak English and who worship &#039;evil&#039; gods.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe you do care, maybe I do too; but whether we agree with what we are doing over there or not, it is still our tribe bombing their tribe.  To the Afghan’s it does not matter whether you or I are for or against the bombings, they’ll still have a grievance against us and our tribe.  Collective responsibility trumps personal responsibility.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what does that mean, and of what use is your personal moral indignation then?  &lt;br /&gt;It means you are going to have to live with, communicate with, and change the minds of “sheeple” and “corporate fascists”.  You can continue to stay on your high horse speaking hyperbole of them, and achieve nothing; or you can swim among them and do something by changing one mind at a time.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Go read Greg Mortenson’s &lt;i&gt;Three Cups of Tea&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&quot;Sheeple are heartless creatures and the bottom line is they couldn&#39;t care less about the suffering endured by strange foreigners who don&#39;t speak English and who worship &#39;evil&#39; gods.&quot;</i></p>
<p>Maybe you do care, maybe I do too; but whether we agree with what we are doing over there or not, it is still our tribe bombing their tribe.  To the Afghan’s it does not matter whether you or I are for or against the bombings, they’ll still have a grievance against us and our tribe.  Collective responsibility trumps personal responsibility.</p>
<p>So what does that mean, and of what use is your personal moral indignation then?  <br />It means you are going to have to live with, communicate with, and change the minds of “sheeple” and “corporate fascists”.  You can continue to stay on your high horse speaking hyperbole of them, and achieve nothing; or you can swim among them and do something by changing one mind at a time.  </p>
<p>Go read Greg Mortenson’s <i>Three Cups of Tea</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your sincere efforts to make a difference, Ms. Edmonds. I know, from my extensive personal research that you are speaking the truth. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However I don&#039;t believe that the Corporo-Fascist war profiteers can be stopped, mainly because it would require all the fat, TV-educated, Pop-Cultured, White Trash/Gangsta minded Sheeple to care about something other than their own insatiable appetite for pleasure. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sheeple are heartless creatures and the bottom line is they couldn&#039;t care less about the suffering endured by strange foreigners who don&#039;t speak English and who worship &#039;evil&#039; gods. They don&#039;t care about &#039;those people over there&#039; - and the war profiteering CRIMINALS are banking on this fact. They&#039;ve done their research and they have complete confidence in their success - because regardless of what people like you do to &#039;blow whistles&#039; at them, in the end your efforts were futile, which is why they allow you to go on, doing what you do!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Monster cannot be stopped and eventually we will ALL be its victim. We already are; where is all that depleted uranium dust going? It doesn&#039;t go away and there is such a thing as weather.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The war criminals strongest ally is always the Sheeple and unfortunately that&#039;s just about all that&#039;s left of us (thanks to their decades in the making media campaign we are royally screwed).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your sincere efforts to make a difference, Ms. Edmonds. I know, from my extensive personal research that you are speaking the truth. </p>
<p>However I don&#39;t believe that the Corporo-Fascist war profiteers can be stopped, mainly because it would require all the fat, TV-educated, Pop-Cultured, White Trash/Gangsta minded Sheeple to care about something other than their own insatiable appetite for pleasure. </p>
<p>Sheeple are heartless creatures and the bottom line is they couldn&#39;t care less about the suffering endured by strange foreigners who don&#39;t speak English and who worship &#39;evil&#39; gods. They don&#39;t care about &#39;those people over there&#39; &#8211; and the war profiteering CRIMINALS are banking on this fact. They&#39;ve done their research and they have complete confidence in their success &#8211; because regardless of what people like you do to &#39;blow whistles&#39; at them, in the end your efforts were futile, which is why they allow you to go on, doing what you do!</p>
<p>The Monster cannot be stopped and eventually we will ALL be its victim. We already are; where is all that depleted uranium dust going? It doesn&#39;t go away and there is such a thing as weather.</p>
<p>The war criminals strongest ally is always the Sheeple and unfortunately that&#39;s just about all that&#39;s left of us (thanks to their decades in the making media campaign we are royally screwed).</p>
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		<title>By: SanderO</title>
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		<dc:creator>SanderO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Showing the true horror of war, especially that 99% of the victims are women and children would not only offend Americans and the rest of the world, but it would make it increasingly unpopular and reveal the lies about war.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They tried with &quot;embeds&quot; but only the suck up media will play.  And how many feel good stories can they do about war?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The real truth telling media is locked out (or taken out). Do you remember the bombing of Al Jezerra in Bgadad?  The US military didn&#039;t want them telling the truth so they bombed their headquarters which was also a message to the press to not get in the wat with inconvenient truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Showing the true horror of war, especially that 99% of the victims are women and children would not only offend Americans and the rest of the world, but it would make it increasingly unpopular and reveal the lies about war.</p>
<p>They tried with &quot;embeds&quot; but only the suck up media will play.  And how many feel good stories can they do about war?</p>
<p>The real truth telling media is locked out (or taken out). Do you remember the bombing of Al Jezerra in Bgadad?  The US military didn&#39;t want them telling the truth so they bombed their headquarters which was also a message to the press to not get in the wat with inconvenient truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon the Neocon-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I agree with you on the need to show photographs of casualties Mrs. Edmonds.  (I hope that&#039;s not a surprise.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Naturally, when the American people decide to engage in a war -  they must fully know the costs we pay as a people. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That said, imagery can be manipulated. And as carelessly as our media trivialize suffering and violence, one questions their ability to handle other critical issues. Handing Olbermann imagery of dead soldiers and civilians, gives death-porn a green-light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon the Neocon-</p>
<p>I agree with you on the need to show photographs of casualties Mrs. Edmonds.  (I hope that&#39;s not a surprise.)</p>
<p>Naturally, when the American people decide to engage in a war &#8211;  they must fully know the costs we pay as a people. </p>
<p>That said, imagery can be manipulated. And as carelessly as our media trivialize suffering and violence, one questions their ability to handle other critical issues. Handing Olbermann imagery of dead soldiers and civilians, gives death-porn a green-light.</p>
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