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		<title>By: Ishmael</title>
		<link>http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2009/11/07/an-analysis-of-warrantless-wiretapping-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-3219</link>
		<dc:creator>Ishmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>leveymg,

If you read Klein&#039;s declaration, It was actually two of his bosses who did the installation of the MTAs and other equipment in the secret rooms. Now it&#039;s a truism that managers are not the best techs and they probably followed Methods of Procedures put together by the NSA.

On another note, my interview with Jeff Farias is up on Jeff&#039;s site at 

http://www.thejefffariasshow.com

Click on the podcast tab and listen to the 11/10/09 show. I&#039;m on in the second hour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leveymg,</p>
<p>If you read Klein&#8217;s declaration, It was actually two of his bosses who did the installation of the MTAs and other equipment in the secret rooms. Now it&#8217;s a truism that managers are not the best techs and they probably followed Methods of Procedures put together by the NSA.</p>
<p>On another note, my interview with Jeff Farias is up on Jeff&#8217;s site at </p>
<p><a href="http://www.thejefffariasshow.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thejefffariasshow.com</a></p>
<p>Click on the podcast tab and listen to the 11/10/09 show. I&#8217;m on in the second hour.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff farias</title>
		<link>http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2009/11/07/an-analysis-of-warrantless-wiretapping-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-3209</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff farias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard &quot;Ishmael&quot; Scott will discuss this article on The Jeff Farias Show on Tuesday November at 7 PM EASTERN.

listen live at http://www.theJeffFariasShow.com

or check out the free podcast availble through the same URL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard &#8220;Ishmael&#8221; Scott will discuss this article on The Jeff Farias Show on Tuesday November at 7 PM EASTERN.</p>
<p>listen live at <a href="http://www.theJeffFariasShow.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.theJeffFariasShow.com</a></p>
<p>or check out the free podcast availble through the same URL</p>
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		<title>By: leveymg</title>
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		<dc:creator>leveymg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Follow-up question for Ishmael:

If NSA is using off-the-shelf NARUS and Verint STAs, shouldn&#039;t one expect that such equipment has been tested by NSA for secure operation?  Doesn&#039;t NSA subject all secure applications equipment and software to 3rd Party testing?  Did not Australia also subject these foreign-sourced STAs to security verification to insure that data wasn&#039;t being illicitely copied, stored, transmitted or diverted post-installation?  How do you believe the Israelis would get around security measures, or are the US and Echelon countries just letting certain third-countries have a piece of the domestic &quot;take&quot; in accordance with secret MOUs? 

Thanks for your insight on these questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Follow-up question for Ishmael:</p>
<p>If NSA is using off-the-shelf NARUS and Verint STAs, shouldn&#8217;t one expect that such equipment has been tested by NSA for secure operation?  Doesn&#8217;t NSA subject all secure applications equipment and software to 3rd Party testing?  Did not Australia also subject these foreign-sourced STAs to security verification to insure that data wasn&#8217;t being illicitely copied, stored, transmitted or diverted post-installation?  How do you believe the Israelis would get around security measures, or are the US and Echelon countries just letting certain third-countries have a piece of the domestic &#8220;take&#8221; in accordance with secret MOUs? </p>
<p>Thanks for your insight on these questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Ishmael</title>
		<link>http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2009/11/07/an-analysis-of-warrantless-wiretapping-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-3186</link>
		<dc:creator>Ishmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lenny, 

Bamford, in his podcast here, discusses the Utah center and it&#039;s corresponding twin being built in Texas. what is more alarming to me is the parallel National Traffic Control Center being constructed at Fort Meade that is identical in scope and function to the A.T.&amp;T. NTCC in Bedminster, New Jersey. This Center will give the NSA the capability to assume total control of the US telecommunications system in the event of a &quot;national emergency&quot;. On Klein, Sibel will be interviewing him this week for a later podcast and will be asking questions, some of which have been provided by me.

It&#039;s also interesting that Sunday&#039;s 60 Minutes devoted half the program to alarming the public over cyberattacks on US telecomm and power grid infrastructures with all the usual alarmists being interviewed. This is to give the justification for both NSA mission creep in the domestic telecom network and the Air Force Cybercommand&#039;s new role in information warfare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lenny, </p>
<p>Bamford, in his podcast here, discusses the Utah center and it&#8217;s corresponding twin being built in Texas. what is more alarming to me is the parallel National Traffic Control Center being constructed at Fort Meade that is identical in scope and function to the A.T.&amp;T. NTCC in Bedminster, New Jersey. This Center will give the NSA the capability to assume total control of the US telecommunications system in the event of a &#8220;national emergency&#8221;. On Klein, Sibel will be interviewing him this week for a later podcast and will be asking questions, some of which have been provided by me.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also interesting that Sunday&#8217;s 60 Minutes devoted half the program to alarming the public over cyberattacks on US telecomm and power grid infrastructures with all the usual alarmists being interviewed. This is to give the justification for both NSA mission creep in the domestic telecom network and the Air Force Cybercommand&#8217;s new role in information warfare.</p>
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		<title>By: Ishmael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ishmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>leveymg,

The optical hybrid splitters are actually standard telecom equipment in fiberoptics and are generally used at cross-connect points as a test equipment point. What Narus and Verint supply are the STAs, Semantic Traffic Analyzers. These are the boxes that actually search through the optical data streams for keywords and phrases. Since Bamford&#039;s podcast showed the Australian government didn&#039;t know or didn&#039;t confirm their surveillance system traffic was being monitored in Israel and considering the close cooperation between US intelligence and Israeli intelligence, it would be fair to assume the Israelis also have access to the US telecommunications monitoring product as well. I hope this clarifies things a bit for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leveymg,</p>
<p>The optical hybrid splitters are actually standard telecom equipment in fiberoptics and are generally used at cross-connect points as a test equipment point. What Narus and Verint supply are the STAs, Semantic Traffic Analyzers. These are the boxes that actually search through the optical data streams for keywords and phrases. Since Bamford&#8217;s podcast showed the Australian government didn&#8217;t know or didn&#8217;t confirm their surveillance system traffic was being monitored in Israel and considering the close cooperation between US intelligence and Israeli intelligence, it would be fair to assume the Israelis also have access to the US telecommunications monitoring product as well. I hope this clarifies things a bit for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone interested in this topic should buy Wiring Up The Big Brother Machine...And Fighting It, by Mark Klein. Save a hard copy mountain of info about the war against America for future reference. An update is that the NSA is building a supercomputer center in Utah of one million square feet to process the data that is collected in their eavesdropping. It&#039;s fun to follow the various threads of stories related to our downfall,thanks to the internet and digital reproduction and storage of information. Works both ways and appears to be in a deadly race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone interested in this topic should buy Wiring Up The Big Brother Machine&#8230;And Fighting It, by Mark Klein. Save a hard copy mountain of info about the war against America for future reference. An update is that the NSA is building a supercomputer center in Utah of one million square feet to process the data that is collected in their eavesdropping. It&#8217;s fun to follow the various threads of stories related to our downfall,thanks to the internet and digital reproduction and storage of information. Works both ways and appears to be in a deadly race.</p>
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		<title>By: edit_mommies</title>
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		<dc:creator>edit_mommies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Cold War Technology blitz possibly prioritized the scheduling of human abilities. Competition to provide a greater measure or record of successive human ability, generates supremacy. Comprehensive research derived from Pavlovian controls is the most potent scheduling interface available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cold War Technology blitz possibly prioritized the scheduling of human abilities. Competition to provide a greater measure or record of successive human ability, generates supremacy. Comprehensive research derived from Pavlovian controls is the most potent scheduling interface available.</p>
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		<title>By: leveymg</title>
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		<dc:creator>leveymg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Ishmael:

Hope it&#039;s not too late to post this question.  Perhaps Sib can forward it, if you don&#039;t see it.  Here&#039;s the $50 trillion question: We know that Narus provides the splitter equipment, but does Israel get a piece of the &quot;take&quot; (the data intercepted by NSA) as well?  Is there a UK/USA (Echelon) agreement with Israel like the one the US has with the Commonwealth countries?  If so, if Israel gets access to US telecom data, what do we get in return?  

The only answer to the last question that would make sense to me is human intel, because any electronic signals worldwide can (presumably) be gathered more effectively by NSA than any other agency - does anyone have any comments on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Ishmael:</p>
<p>Hope it&#8217;s not too late to post this question.  Perhaps Sib can forward it, if you don&#8217;t see it.  Here&#8217;s the $50 trillion question: We know that Narus provides the splitter equipment, but does Israel get a piece of the &#8220;take&#8221; (the data intercepted by NSA) as well?  Is there a UK/USA (Echelon) agreement with Israel like the one the US has with the Commonwealth countries?  If so, if Israel gets access to US telecom data, what do we get in return?  </p>
<p>The only answer to the last question that would make sense to me is human intel, because any electronic signals worldwide can (presumably) be gathered more effectively by NSA than any other agency &#8211; does anyone have any comments on that?</p>
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		<title>By: Sibel Edmonds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sibel Edmonds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ishmael: And thank you for this informative and well-written piece. Don&#039;t forget to provide our readers with the link to your upcoming interview on this topic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ishmael: And thank you for this informative and well-written piece. Don&#8217;t forget to provide our readers with the link to your upcoming interview on this topic!</p>
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		<title>By: Ishmael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ishmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you all for your kind comments. I&#039;m gratified to get so many positive responses.

Simon: Great link. I&#039;ll be incorporating some of the info there in my follow-on piece to this.

Metem: Another great link. So it seems we are to be involuntarily placed among the mindless consumers. Because, after all, the LAST thing these people want is a free and INFORMED citizenry practicing coherent thinking and actions.

Jade: Bamford&#039;s first interview said it all when he described how the Australian government had less control over their own surveillance regime than their Israeli &quot;Contractors&quot; did.

Thanks again to everyone else for your kind comments, especially my old compadres from the RhodesScholar boards who showed suport for me here.

The Thousand-Mile journey begins beneath your feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all for your kind comments. I&#8217;m gratified to get so many positive responses.</p>
<p>Simon: Great link. I&#8217;ll be incorporating some of the info there in my follow-on piece to this.</p>
<p>Metem: Another great link. So it seems we are to be involuntarily placed among the mindless consumers. Because, after all, the LAST thing these people want is a free and INFORMED citizenry practicing coherent thinking and actions.</p>
<p>Jade: Bamford&#8217;s first interview said it all when he described how the Australian government had less control over their own surveillance regime than their Israeli &#8220;Contractors&#8221; did.</p>
<p>Thanks again to everyone else for your kind comments, especially my old compadres from the RhodesScholar boards who showed suport for me here.</p>
<p>The Thousand-Mile journey begins beneath your feet.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A problem with current voice recognition software:

Not being able to distinguish between numbers (even if you speak slowly and distinctly). Some Wall Street firms are having big problems with this as clients call in. You could literally say the correct pin number to your account three times and the system could still reject you.

Yet these firms have how many billions now in bailout funds? I wonder if the CEO&#039;s have this problem?

[WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The poster sent us &#039;0 which is not a hashcash value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A problem with current voice recognition software:</p>
<p>Not being able to distinguish between numbers (even if you speak slowly and distinctly). Some Wall Street firms are having big problems with this as clients call in. You could literally say the correct pin number to your account three times and the system could still reject you.</p>
<p>Yet these firms have how many billions now in bailout funds? I wonder if the CEO&#8217;s have this problem?</p>
<p>[WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The poster sent us &#8216;0 which is not a hashcash value.</p>
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		<title>By: Styve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Styve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent explanation of the breadth of the wiretap systems, and I am interested to see if Sibel confirms, though I can wait til Wednesday for her follow-up with Bamford.

Don&#039;t know that I dig the format of the new site...yet...

Thanks~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent explanation of the breadth of the wiretap systems, and I am interested to see if Sibel confirms, though I can wait til Wednesday for her follow-up with Bamford.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know that I dig the format of the new site&#8230;yet&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks~~</p>
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