Cutolo’s affidavit:

http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/deep_black_1_2.htm

(Sorry for submitting this message two times on your site. I prefer it here.)

Haney was an enlisted man, the former military talking heads getting paid by the networks and getting talking points from the Pentagon were officers. Second of all, Haney criticized the neocons, the war in Iraq, and the Bush administration. I think the military expert role for tv networks you cite, is for his role as the adviser to the tv series “The Unit”.

“I would also think that an organization like the Delta Force would have been able to keep their operations a secret but, by Haney’s own admission, Gritz was able to find out about them each time and thwart them?”

I don’t know if Gritz knew about the Delta mission or not, either way it is irrelevant. Announcing that you are going in to rescue American POWs to the world media absolutely destroys whatever element of surprise you may have. Even if the POWs did exist and were being held somewhere, that position would be reinforced (including more anti-air) or the POWs would be moved – either way your plan is compromised. The second time you do it; they kill the POWs and destroy the evidence they existed. It was irresponsible and stupid at best, and murderously negligent at worst.

“How could something like that happen, I wonder? Unless the same people blocking Gritz were the same ones manipulating the intel on Delta Force operations?”

I doubt Gritz’s operation would have worked anyway – that was the point; a freelance hostage rescue operation of 50-100 people deep in a hostile country being financed by American right-wing billionaires, makes for a great movie but doesn’t add up in reality. If we are to believe Haney, Gritz was manipulated into his bumbling plots by forces in the government that didn’t the POWs to be rescued, in-order to undermine the Delta Force mission. Gritz was a tool.

I take it that you have actually researched this guy, Mizgin?

“The answer concerning Armitage is that as Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs, he was responsible for U.S. POW/MIAs. If any would have ever come home, Congress would have investigated who was in charge; what took so long; and what was ISA doing if not searching for POWs? Armitage, Shackley, and all the others (including Bush, Sr.) would have been uncovered — along with their ocean of illegal cash (for covert operations — bypassing Congress).”

KF, I would be extremely skeptical about anything Eric Haney would say about the matter, too. He was a military expert on many of the worthless news networks promoting the Pentagon’s propaganda after 9/11 and many of those were paid propagandists.

I would also think that an organization like the Delta Force would have been able to keep their operations a secret but, by Haney’s own admission, Gritz was able to find out about them each time and thwart them? That’s amazing. How could something like that happen, I wonder? Unless the same people blocking Gritz were the same ones manipulating the intel on Delta Force operations?

In the summer of 1981 the Army’s Delta Force had conducted its final rehearsal of an operation to rescue American POWs being held in Laos by the North Vietnamese, all they needed was the word ‘go’. Then all of a sudden Gritz shows up on world television and announces he has information on the location of POWs and is working on a private plan to go in and rescue them.

Lt. Col. Gritz’s actions compromised the mission.

Then a year later, Delta dusts-off the mission and begins planning to rescue POWs. Guess what happens? Gritz shows up in Bangkok saying he has located the POWs and is planning a rescue, compromising the Delta mission again!

Eric Haney, a Delta Force member wrote this in his book about Gritz’s role:

“The only thing Gritz possibly accomplished by a stunt like that was the compromise of a mission. His and ours. It was unbelievable that a former Special Forces officer could do such a thing. What could possibly explain Gritz’s reckless behavior? Was he being manipulated or was he simply chasing self-promotion?

I came to believe that Gritz was being used by people who were well aware of his personal propensities.”

I’ve always tried to figure out exactly why, on the one hand, the ATC and its connected Turkish companies are free to involve themselves in nuclear proliferation while, on the other hand, the CIA pays people like Valerie Plame and her cohorts to work undercover to STOP the trade in nuclear technology.

My best guess is that it’s a case of different Agencies, or even departments within Agencies with different objectives. On the one hand, you have the State Department that wants to do everything to keep Turkey and Pakistan happy. They want some nuclear technology? Sure, why not, as long as “our friends” in Pakistan and Turkey are promoting America’s long term objectives in the Balkans, Middle East and Central Asia, they are free to raid the cookie jar.

On the other hand, elements of the CIA and FBI are actually trying to stop or at least track the flow of technology, to prevent it from getting into the “wrong hands” (as if Turkey and Pakistan and Saudi Arabia weren’t wrong enough). This is why Sibel overheard Grossman warning off the Turkish and Pakistani targets from dealing with Brewster Jennings. Grossman was obviously at odds with the CIA (Oh yeah, and personal corruption might have been another factor.)

It reminds me when Michael Levine at the DEA had a big bust ready to go of some drug lords in Mexico in the 1980s. The day the operation was ready;someone else Levine was working with informed him the Attorney General Ed Meese had tipped off the Attorney General in Mexico of the raid, effectively blowing the whole operation.

I do believe Plame was probably doing her job at the CIA, though we can’t know for sure if her marraige to Wilson effected her work. As for Joe Wilson, I don’t really know what he knew or was involved in. We do know he is a phony whistleblower (one of those people who kept their mouths shut when it could have made a difference, then falsely tried to make a hero of himself when it no longer mattered.)

Apparently, some of those who have written about this aspect of Armitage’s history refer to Armitage as the “bagman” because he was the one who carried the opium money to Australia. As for the business of not wanting MIAs/POWs to return, this comes from Gritz and he doesn’t explain exactly what he means by it. It may be that the ones left behind might have known something of the opium operations and would have exposed those who were involved if they had been returned. But that’s my speculation.

Also, I did come across information that seemed to say that the opium operations were not official CIA and that, in fact, it was government officials, like Armitage, Shackley, Clines, etc., who were running these operations as their own “business”.

Mike Ruppert has a number of articles about Armitage at his From the Wilderness site and I think I’ll be able to work a couple of them into the subsequent posts on this subject.

Thanks, Miguel. I don’t know what LeBoutillier would mean by a “Big Scandal” but it seems to me that the hiding of the information about Armitage’s dealings in the Golden Triangle is a pretty big scandal. Why this hasn’t been investigated further is also a pretty big scandal. There will be more, too, on how Armitage is portrayed by the jackasses in the mainstream media, and there’s one thing in particular that I can’t believe they’ve actually pulled off since Iran-Contra regarding Armitage’s character. But that’s coming soon.

Well, Remo, if Armitage is the quintessential free-marketer, then his stuff shouldn’t be taxed. After all, it’s the “free” market, right?

Thanks, Ishmael. Yes, Negroponte was the Political Officer in the embassy in Saigon and was the chief liaison officer in Saigon between the South Vietnamese and North Vietnamese governments, but he held these positions in the 1960s. More on him at Rightweb.

I think there’s a lot more that went on between Armitage and Grossman over the ridiculous Plame Affair, but we’ll talk about that later. Remember, Armitage was Grossman’s boss. His new position as Grand Poo-Bah of the ATC may definitely be his “reward”.

Why did Plame not contact Sibel? Because Plame is one of THEM. Her worthless husband is an old buddy of Grossman and nothing about the Plame case had anything to do with anything that is right and good. It was all about the grinding of political axes. These people don’t really care about nuclear non-proliferation anyway. I mean, if they did, why didn’t they continue with the wiretaps on Grossman and nail him for his behavior? Why didn’t they go after the other players, like Giza Technologies?

Besides, if nukes proliferate, then everyone can get rich selling missile defense shield systems, right?

Taz, you’re right; things don’t have to be the way they are, but sometimes I don’t think there are any other options open to us except to “take care” of the criminals in power.

Apparently, some of those who have written about this aspect of Armitage’s history refer to Armitage as the “bagman” because he was the one who carried the opium money to Australia. As for the business of not wanting MIAs/POWs to return, this comes from Gritz and he doesn’t explain exactly what he means by it. It may be that the ones left behind might have known something of the opium operations and would have exposed those who were involved if they had been returned. But that’s my speculation.

Also, I did come across information that seemed to say that the opium operations were not official CIA and that, in fact, it was government officials, like Armitage, Shackley, Clines, etc., who were running these operations as their own “business”.

Mike Ruppert has a number of articles about Armitage at his From the Wilderness site and I think I’ll be able to work a couple of them into the subsequent posts on this subject.

Thanks, Miguel. I don’t know what LeBoutillier would mean by a “Big Scandal” but it seems to me that the hiding of the information about Armitage’s dealings in the Golden Triangle is a pretty big scandal. Why this hasn’t been investigated further is also a pretty big scandal. There will be more, too, on how Armitage is portrayed by the jackasses in the mainstream media, and there’s one thing in particular that I can’t believe they’ve actually pulled off since Iran-Contra regarding Armitage’s character. But that’s coming soon.

Well, Remo, if Armitage is the quintessential free-marketer, then his stuff shouldn’t be taxed. After all, it’s the “free” market, right?

Thanks, Ishmael. Yes, Negroponte was the Political Officer in the embassy in Saigon and was the chief liaison officer in Saigon between the South Vietnamese and North Vietnamese governments, but he held these positions in the 1960s. More on him at Rightweb.

I think there’s a lot more that went on between Armitage and Grossman over the ridiculous Plame Affair, but we’ll talk about that later. Remember, Armitage was Grossman’s boss. His new position as Grand Poo-Bah of the ATC may definitely be his “reward”.

Why did Plame not contact Sibel? Because Plame is one of THEM. Her worthless husband is an old buddy of Grossman and nothing about the Plame case had anything to do with anything that is right and good. It was all about the grinding of political axes. These people don’t really care about nuclear non-proliferation anyway. I mean, if they did, why didn’t they continue with the wiretaps on Grossman and nail him for his behavior? Why didn’t they go after the other players, like Giza Technologies?

Besides, if nukes proliferate, then everyone can get rich selling missile defense shield systems, right?

Taz, you’re right. Things don’t have to be the way they are. But I don’t see many options available to us other than to “take care” of the criminals in power.

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Hope we all can learn and change of how our US gov’t and its foreign policies work.

1.According to Sibel, Plame’s brass plate covert op, Brewster/Jennings, was blown by Grossman to the ATC/ISI two full years before Plame’s own identity was compromised.

2.To my knowledge, to this day, Melanie Sloan, Plame-Wilson’s attorney, has never contacted Edmonds about her testimony and it’s relevance to Plame’s civil case against Cheney, Libby et all.

Now why would high government officials allow the compromise of their main Nucelar Non-Proliferation covert op, run by their own intelligence agency’s Nuclear Non-Proliferation Division? Why would the main victim of this action not contact the one witness who could actually provide an accurate timeline to B/J’s compromise and place it in the context of her later compromise?

My take on the reason for Plame’s outing was because these people already knew her network was effectively useless and, therefore, she had no further value. What’s unclear to me is why she would not reach out to the one person who could really blow her case back onto the headlines.

Great piece of work! Curiously, I have followed LeBoutillier\’s blog before and emailed him a few times. Occassionally, he used to refer to something he called \"the Big Scandal\" that he hoped would break someday soon. I wonder if this is what he\’s referring to. Although he\’s a conservative, I have found him to be pretty fair in his analysis. He pretty much attacks Republicans with the same vigor he attacks Democrats.

As for Armitage: it is interesting, given his checkered history, how he is portrayed as a \’moderate\’. If this is what a \’centrist\’ looks like, who needs \’Neocons\’?

Again, as I have noted before, do a youtube search for interviews with a guy named Chip Tatum. I have no idea if he is for real but his info seems to dovetail pretty well with this story.