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	<title>Comments on: CIA to Dish out $3 Million to buy silence in Another Narco Scandal</title>
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		<title>By: UnMask911</title>
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		<dc:creator>UnMask911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One element here that seems to be overlooked is the connection of the CIA/ state drug trafficking to the prison industrial complex. Prisons are a growth industry, both domestically and internationally, and the &quot;war on drugs&quot; has resulted in a ready made prison population. CIA involvement in drug trafficking ensures the continued availability of inmates. Daniel Hopsicker and his website Mad Cow News has regularly provided a glimpse into the dark underbelly of CIA drug trafficking (and 911). Can it be just a coincidence that two nations now enduring massive US military occupations, Colombia and Afghanistan, are responsible for 90% of the world&#039;s production of cocaine and heroin? This is Scarface writ large and the resulting destructiveness to the human family in the violence of warfare and addiction, all for profit, is colossal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One element here that seems to be overlooked is the connection of the CIA/ state drug trafficking to the prison industrial complex. Prisons are a growth industry, both domestically and internationally, and the &#8220;war on drugs&#8221; has resulted in a ready made prison population. CIA involvement in drug trafficking ensures the continued availability of inmates. Daniel Hopsicker and his website Mad Cow News has regularly provided a glimpse into the dark underbelly of CIA drug trafficking (and 911). Can it be just a coincidence that two nations now enduring massive US military occupations, Colombia and Afghanistan, are responsible for 90% of the world&#8217;s production of cocaine and heroin? This is Scarface writ large and the resulting destructiveness to the human family in the violence of warfare and addiction, all for profit, is colossal.</p>
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		<title>By: ZicaTanka</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZicaTanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks.  You guys are great.  I&#039;ll buy some lottery tickets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks.  You guys are great.  I&#8217;ll buy some lottery tickets.</p>
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		<title>By: gov&#39;t. contempt</title>
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		<dc:creator>gov&#39;t. contempt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for your interest . the court , twice , told the gov&#039;t. that he was not buyiny the gov&#039;t.&#039;s assertion of the states secrets privileged because what it presented to the court in camera the court found not to be states secrets ; the court gave the gov&#039;t. one more chance and ordered it to file in camera by sept. 4 it&#039;s justifications for each claim of states secrets , shortly thereafter the gov&#039;t notified us it wanted to settle . so we believe another motivating factor was to preclude the information from going public and from horn from publicly disclosing what he knows , and to preclude the state dept. IG investigator [who investigated horn&#039;s claims] from being deposed ; our mtn to depose him was filed. . wish you had found that billionair .hope this answers your question. why your interest ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for your interest . the court , twice , told the gov&#8217;t. that he was not buyiny the gov&#8217;t.&#8217;s assertion of the states secrets privileged because what it presented to the court in camera the court found not to be states secrets ; the court gave the gov&#8217;t. one more chance and ordered it to file in camera by sept. 4 it&#8217;s justifications for each claim of states secrets , shortly thereafter the gov&#8217;t notified us it wanted to settle . so we believe another motivating factor was to preclude the information from going public and from horn from publicly disclosing what he knows , and to preclude the state dept. IG investigator [who investigated horn's claims] from being deposed ; our mtn to depose him was filed. . wish you had found that billionair .hope this answers your question. why your interest ?</p>
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		<title>By: ZicaTanka</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZicaTanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Mr. Leighton.  Sounds like you and your client have really caused some high level embarassments.  Hopefully those will be recorded and dealt with by the court.  Too bad about the Main Stream Media.

I guess my question has to do with WHY the CIA lied and committed that fraud upon the court.  In other words, so what if they have to pay 3 million of OUR TAX DOLLARS to remain silent about WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO KNOW.

So, again, was it just the embarassment that they&#039;re settling, or is it that they don&#039;t want Brown to testify (or similar roads they don&#039;t want to travel any further)?

Sorry if I&#039;m not sounding appreciative.  I am honeslty in awe of your accomplishments in this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Mr. Leighton.  Sounds like you and your client have really caused some high level embarassments.  Hopefully those will be recorded and dealt with by the court.  Too bad about the Main Stream Media.</p>
<p>I guess my question has to do with WHY the CIA lied and committed that fraud upon the court.  In other words, so what if they have to pay 3 million of OUR TAX DOLLARS to remain silent about WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO KNOW.</p>
<p>So, again, was it just the embarassment that they&#8217;re settling, or is it that they don&#8217;t want Brown to testify (or similar roads they don&#8217;t want to travel any further)?</p>
<p>Sorry if I&#8217;m not sounding appreciative.  I am honeslty in awe of your accomplishments in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: gov&#39;t. contempt</title>
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		<dc:creator>gov&#39;t. contempt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZicaTanka: leighton here ; Cia&#039;s motivation to settle is darn close to DoJ&#039;s motivation to settle ; they have both immensley and irretrievably peeved the court ; the highest levels of CIA were found by the court to not only have lied to him in a situation that was the equivalent of owing a fiduciary duty but CIA  continued to cover up the lie--and also arrogantly contended that it was no big deal anyway [which furter infuriated the court ] ; DOJ was carrying that same message to the court and imperiously lecturing the court [further fury by the court ] ; DOJ/CIA received progressively worse reviews by the court in his decisions---and DOJ finally realized [DUH !!!]they also were sinking---and making horrible precedence for them ---and losing ALL credibility with the court---a very powerful judge . we thought----Hmmmmm--we don&#039;t believe the court would ever agree to vacate his well-justified orders. hope that answers your questions . brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZicaTanka: leighton here ; Cia&#8217;s motivation to settle is darn close to DoJ&#8217;s motivation to settle ; they have both immensley and irretrievably peeved the court ; the highest levels of CIA were found by the court to not only have lied to him in a situation that was the equivalent of owing a fiduciary duty but CIA  continued to cover up the lie&#8211;and also arrogantly contended that it was no big deal anyway [which furter infuriated the court ] ; DOJ was carrying that same message to the court and imperiously lecturing the court [further fury by the court ] ; DOJ/CIA received progressively worse reviews by the court in his decisions&#8212;and DOJ finally realized [DUH !!!]they also were sinking&#8212;and making horrible precedence for them &#8212;and losing ALL credibility with the court&#8212;a very powerful judge . we thought&#8212;-Hmmmmm&#8211;we don&#8217;t believe the court would ever agree to vacate his well-justified orders. hope that answers your questions . brian</p>
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		<title>By: ZicaTanka</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZicaTanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Leighton, thanks for your comments and your fight for justice.  It&#039;s nice to hear about your confidence in the judge&#039;s convictions.

Do you think the CIA&#039;s motivation to settle has a lot to do with trying to vacate the judge&#039;s orders, or is it more that they don&#039;t want anymore to come out about their actions relating to your client (with Brown being reinstated as a defendant)?

Do you see anything arising from this case that might warrant a criminal investigation/court?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Leighton, thanks for your comments and your fight for justice.  It&#8217;s nice to hear about your confidence in the judge&#8217;s convictions.</p>
<p>Do you think the CIA&#8217;s motivation to settle has a lot to do with trying to vacate the judge&#8217;s orders, or is it more that they don&#8217;t want anymore to come out about their actions relating to your client (with Brown being reinstated as a defendant)?</p>
<p>Do you see anything arising from this case that might warrant a criminal investigation/court?</p>
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		<title>By: gov&#39;t. contempt</title>
		<link>http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2009/11/17/cia-to-dish-out-3-million-to-buy-silence-in-another-narco-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-3395</link>
		<dc:creator>gov&#39;t. contempt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi commenters and author ; i am richard horn&#039;s atty , brian leighton . great comments and questions : to settle we were required by the spooks(cia)/doj to not oppose the gov&#039;t.&#039;s mtn to vacate judge lamberth&#039;s critical orders this year ; we almost said &quot;hell no&quot; --but strongly felt that even without our opposition Judge Lamberth would NEVER vacate those orders---because THE CIA LIED to him , and played him for a fool--- because he previously (2000- 2004) had utterly deferred to them (tenet and doj) telling him  the the truth--not only as to Browns covert status but that all of this was really precious &quot;states secrets privileged&quot;: &quot;hell hath no fury like a Judge lied to by one he has deferred to trust&quot; [or something like that]. mr conroy has previous links to the court hearings on feb 4th and may 19 this year ; link to them and you can see the Judge is not a happy camper with the gov&#039;t.; indeed quite livid. mr horn and i appreciate your interest ; should be in the main stream media--although these postings give the story much better justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi commenters and author ; i am richard horn&#8217;s atty , brian leighton . great comments and questions : to settle we were required by the spooks(cia)/doj to not oppose the gov&#8217;t.&#8217;s mtn to vacate judge lamberth&#8217;s critical orders this year ; we almost said &#8220;hell no&#8221; &#8211;but strongly felt that even without our opposition Judge Lamberth would NEVER vacate those orders&#8212;because THE CIA LIED to him , and played him for a fool&#8212; because he previously (2000- 2004) had utterly deferred to them (tenet and doj) telling him  the the truth&#8211;not only as to Browns covert status but that all of this was really precious &#8220;states secrets privileged&#8221;: &#8220;hell hath no fury like a Judge lied to by one he has deferred to trust&#8221; [or something like that]. mr conroy has previous links to the court hearings on feb 4th and may 19 this year ; link to them and you can see the Judge is not a happy camper with the gov&#8217;t.; indeed quite livid. mr horn and i appreciate your interest ; should be in the main stream media&#8211;although these postings give the story much better justice.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No coincidence that wherever the Pentagon goes, the drug trade skyrockets.  In Central America in the 1980&#039;s, it was cocaine being transported out and sold on American streets to finance black ops and enrich insiders.

During the War against Vietnam, heroin coming out of the Golden Triangle set records for the amounts produced and sold.

Now we have a repeat with poppy fields and opium/heroin production coming out of Afghanistan making billions and billions for Wall Street banks and the CIA.

And that&#039;s what the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan is all about: Securing bases in the area to make a grab for the Caspian Basin oil and natural gas fields; surrounding one of Israel&#039;s &#039;existential&#039; enemies, Iran, with US firepower and making it safe for Wall Street banks to rake in billions selling misery.

&lt;i&gt;One publication I read daily: Asia Times. Tonight I’ll have Pepe Escobar&lt;/i&gt;

Asia Times Online (ATOL) is an excellent online source of news that is a must read. And Pepe has some serious cajones as he bravely enters combat zones in the ME and SW Asia to get some real time reporting, unlike NYT hacks who report on the ME from New York, Toronto and London.

[WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The poster sent us &#039;0 which is not a hashcash value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No coincidence that wherever the Pentagon goes, the drug trade skyrockets.  In Central America in the 1980&#8217;s, it was cocaine being transported out and sold on American streets to finance black ops and enrich insiders.</p>
<p>During the War against Vietnam, heroin coming out of the Golden Triangle set records for the amounts produced and sold.</p>
<p>Now we have a repeat with poppy fields and opium/heroin production coming out of Afghanistan making billions and billions for Wall Street banks and the CIA.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s what the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan is all about: Securing bases in the area to make a grab for the Caspian Basin oil and natural gas fields; surrounding one of Israel&#8217;s &#8216;existential&#8217; enemies, Iran, with US firepower and making it safe for Wall Street banks to rake in billions selling misery.</p>
<p><i>One publication I read daily: Asia Times. Tonight I’ll have Pepe Escobar</i></p>
<p>Asia Times Online (ATOL) is an excellent online source of news that is a must read. And Pepe has some serious cajones as he bravely enters combat zones in the ME and SW Asia to get some real time reporting, unlike NYT hacks who report on the ME from New York, Toronto and London.</p>
<p>[WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The poster sent us &#8216;0 which is not a hashcash value.</p>
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		<title>By: ZicaTanka</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZicaTanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any billionaires listening who want to give Horn $3Mil to stick it to the CIA and pull some curtains back?  Maybe what Nader says is true: &quot;Only the Super Rich Can Save Us&quot;

When considering many of the foreign affairs discussions here, it seems that the domestic propoganda campaign called the War On Drugs is ripe for destruction.  Starting with deconstruction.  Edit Mommies, would you give us a rundown?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any billionaires listening who want to give Horn $3Mil to stick it to the CIA and pull some curtains back?  Maybe what Nader says is true: &#8220;Only the Super Rich Can Save Us&#8221;</p>
<p>When considering many of the foreign affairs discussions here, it seems that the domestic propoganda campaign called the War On Drugs is ripe for destruction.  Starting with deconstruction.  Edit Mommies, would you give us a rundown?</p>
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		<title>By: Metem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand that Mr. Horn&#039;s desire to settle after 15 years but I wish he&#039;d have been able to avoid giving up his right to contest the motions to vacate.  I noticed too that the Al Harimain Foundation filed something opposing the motions to vacate.  That&#039;s interesting too.  I don&#039;t really understand all the legal niceties, so it would be interesting to know more about how the two cases could affect each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand that Mr. Horn&#8217;s desire to settle after 15 years but I wish he&#8217;d have been able to avoid giving up his right to contest the motions to vacate.  I noticed too that the Al Harimain Foundation filed something opposing the motions to vacate.  That&#8217;s interesting too.  I don&#8217;t really understand all the legal niceties, so it would be interesting to know more about how the two cases could affect each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Sibel Edmonds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sibel Edmonds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bill: I&#039;ll be certainly watching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bill: I&#8217;ll be certainly watching.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bergman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bergman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This can be difficult material, but as Conroy concludes, Lamberth&#039;s decision seems worth watching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This can be difficult material, but as Conroy concludes, Lamberth&#8217;s decision seems worth watching.</p>
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