Comments on: How we discovered Verizon’s Spamdetector could be twisted into a disguise for censorship!

By: theepitbull

theepitbull — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:48:57 +0000

All

This doesn’t just happen with Verizon:( When I had my computer business up and running people would tell me that they would send me an email which I never received to include not only email, but, phone call messages also.

Sibel

Would be more than willing to help moderate, moreover, check out this links to ensure your getting exposure:

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Great post!

Love “Light” and Energy

_Don

By: Earlaiman

Earlaiman — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:50:44 +0000

Given the intensity of Israeli based groups in IT and Telecommunications worldwide,it s does not take much imagination to guess just who this “anonymous third party” who arbitrarily and without redress determines what is and what is not SPAM or is suitable for transmission on the internet.

Vogons is the best description I have heard of them yet! Thank you, and thank you for reminding mejockdoubleday, and thank you Doug for making them up. We miss you.

Earlaiman said that.

By: jockdoubleday

jockdoubleday — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:59:20 +0000

“The frightening thing about the Vogons was their absolute mindless determination to do whatever mindless thing it was they were determined to do.” (Douglas Adams, Mostly Harmless, 733)

By: Simon

Simon — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:57:55 +0000

After some persistence I was able to log on again. Zero’s and O’s were difficult to distinguish. Not sure why my original login was not kept, but am back. As for spam detectors and surveillance, my original comment was to say ‘Just speak Truth to Power.’ It does not matter if it is monitored. This site is getting a lot of press, and it is expected that it will be monitored

By: woozle

woozle — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:54:29 +0000

I posted a comment just now with a lot of links in it, and it just vanished — is it being held for moderation, or automatically rejected as spam? There’s no indication…

By: woozle

woozle — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:51:18 +0000

For what it's worth, I've changed the "Did You Know..." box on the front page of Issuepedia to this:

Did You Know: At least 24.1% of the United States*, including most of most of Washington DC, is behind walls of unofficial, unaccountable censorship rather like the so-called Great Firewall of China? (*Verizon 8.8%, Comcast 15.3%)

Although Comcast apparently isn't blocking boilingfrogspost.com, they have blocked emails seemingly for political reasons in the past (see links above).

By: Sibel Edmonds

Sibel Edmonds — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:15:51 +0000

@ KingFisher: Are you referring to that ‘challenged’ remark on implants/etc.? If so, 1- It is removed; 2- It takes time for me to catch and remove these types of comments not trapped by ‘Spam detector,’ and since this darn ‘spam detector’ puts hold on ‘legit’ comments…To make the long story short, and as I’ve posted recently on ‘being patient’ while we are working on the site, please don’t get huffy. Instead you can volunteer to moderate comments a few hours a week, or, be patient while I juggle managing this site. This attitude is called: constructive, positive, and productive!

By: zb

zb — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:09:05 +0000

This was, again, an automated decision you were forced to point out to real people.

ALL unencrypted information you exchange over any piece of publicly accessible line or wire is subject to scrutiny.

Think keywords, like a search engine.

An ISP change is one way of fixing the problem. The script(s) used to ‘share this story’ could be a problem.

(Not that he’ll be able to find a widget to fix that).

In this case, one automated system of filtering through untold trillions of pieces of information found a dislike for another automated system’s manner of email distribution.

The words, routing, and/or methodology caught.

We could always go back to no spam filters whatsoever, when you are forced to create an entirely new email account after a particular group or individual got a hold of your information.

The machines can’t hear you

By: Kingfisher

Kingfisher — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:26:55 +0000

Get a new email service or internet service provider.

Why was this posted?

By: Ry

Ry — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:20:52 +0000

Classic shucking blame to avoid accountability. It’s just a clever form of censorship.

By: T

Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:22:34 +0000

Just talked to someone at a local Verizon shop re: this. He says that the “third party” that handles email/spam is in Canada.

By: Greg Bacon

Greg Bacon — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:25:58 +0000

The person reviewing the possible spam is named Torquemada and has a rather mean dispostion.

At least they didn’t insist on a body cavity search.

[WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The poster sent us ’0 which is not a hashcash value.

By: remo

remo — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:30:56 +0000

the absence of knowing inquisitors identity and no rights of debate will be familiar to those poor souls woken in the bloodied cells of Guantanamo and abu ghraib. From out here, modern Amercia is a secretive compartmentalized violent and military society, a corporation in global expansion, looking like becoming its own worst enemy. telecommunications and the owners of technologies are going to control them.Who else? Revolving doors make identity of ownership and human responsibilities a blur. Full spectrum dominance. It couldn’t be said plainer.
Restrictive information flows under corporate control. Keep it sweet on top.

By: Metem

Metem — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:19:16 +0000

Off topic, but I thought some of you may be interested in this video of Daniel Ellsberg and Matt Hoh talking (Matt Hoh is the official who resigned in protest from his post in Afghanistan a while back)

By: Bill Bergman

Bill Bergman — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:45:31 +0000

One could argue that you can always choose another carrier. But I’m curious if, legally, that could still leave Verizon open to scrutiny.

By: T

Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:40:08 +0000

This is one reason why I try never to use a provider’s email service. Having a network of your own email addresses has worked much better (for work, personal stuff. And just online protection). It’s just a matter of finding the right tools.

By: Ishmael

Ishmael — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:46:17 +0000

So BFP is SPAM? Was the link in the body or title of the email? I have Comcast and have had no problems on my end. Is there a contact e-mail or number we can call to register complaints at Verizon? I’ve also had no problems linking to the site from my political blogs or on Facebook or myspace. Keep us posted. I would also be interested to hear from posters who use other companies’ services as well. Now think about this within the framework of the Net Neutrality debates and the telecomms plans for bundling certain sites and charging extra sites not within their “bundled service”.