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	<title>Comments on: Fort Hood &amp; the KSM trial- Part I: What do these terrorism stories have in common?</title>
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		<title>By: SanderO</title>
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		<dc:creator>SanderO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 06:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW Kingfisher since your bringing up resumes and bona fides, what&#039;s your resume got in it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW Kingfisher since your bringing up resumes and bona fides, what&#8217;s your resume got in it?</p>
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		<title>By: remo</title>
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		<dc:creator>remo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 05:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are two words that answer the question of the towers destruction. For the record.  Free fall. or, fall  free .   you cannot have free falling gravitational collapse WITHOUT  structural removal .otherwise it aint freefall. It is very simple.   free fall has been established for 2.5 seconds on #7,[NIST] and 1 and 2 were just over free fall. 11-12 seconds for 110 stories? Go figure. All that structure just &#039;got out of the way?&#039; Yeah. right.  Our &#039;intellectuals&#039; have let us down.Thank you the American architects and engineers with guts getting up and onto this one at last.

What is known of the SEC or other investigations into the stock put spikes that day? And, with regard Mr Obama. the victims here are those thousands of dead civilians. Were any of them our children?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are two words that answer the question of the towers destruction. For the record.  Free fall. or, fall  free .   you cannot have free falling gravitational collapse WITHOUT  structural removal .otherwise it aint freefall. It is very simple.   free fall has been established for 2.5 seconds on #7,[NIST] and 1 and 2 were just over free fall. 11-12 seconds for 110 stories? Go figure. All that structure just &#8216;got out of the way?&#8217; Yeah. right.  Our &#8216;intellectuals&#8217; have let us down.Thank you the American architects and engineers with guts getting up and onto this one at last.</p>
<p>What is known of the SEC or other investigations into the stock put spikes that day? And, with regard Mr Obama. the victims here are those thousands of dead civilians. Were any of them our children?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good discussion.  I read &#039;Triple Cross&#039; once.  I believe Peter Lance is pursuing a research direction that does not deny &#039;controlled demolition&#039;; rather he suggests that the paper trails around SDNY can reveal the puppeteers i.e. Jamie Gorelick, Robert Zoellick of the World Bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good discussion.  I read &#8216;Triple Cross&#8217; once.  I believe Peter Lance is pursuing a research direction that does not deny &#8216;controlled demolition&#8217;; rather he suggests that the paper trails around SDNY can reveal the puppeteers i.e. Jamie Gorelick, Robert Zoellick of the World Bank.</p>
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		<title>By: Kingfisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kingfisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@T,

Some of your questions are rhetorical, and most are loaded.  So no, the media will probably not be discussing those exact questions.  Some of the issues underlying your questions are discussed, sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@T,</p>
<p>Some of your questions are rhetorical, and most are loaded.  So no, the media will probably not be discussing those exact questions.  Some of the issues underlying your questions are discussed, sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: SanderO</title>
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		<dc:creator>SanderO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am only a 62 year old architect whose been observing things.  I am not a professional journalist such as Mr. Lance.

I believe I am entitled to comment - or prattle on - as you put it.  I don&#039;t believe Mr. Lance has examined or understand the physics involved with the collapses of those 3 towers.  If he has any interest he has to rely on experts who understand these matters, such as architects and engineers. My professional opinion (for what it&#039;s worth) is that those buildings did not collapse from steel weakened from office fires and jet fuel.  Explosive were involved.  If explosives were involved the plot thickens and more people than the 19 hijackers were involved... or another way of looking at it, if part of the story is false, you need to re examine the entire story.

My position is very simple.  I look at the evidence in the public record.  I can&#039;t see a plane hitting the pentagon, so I won&#039;t admit one did.  It may have, but the evidence is very thin on that.

When you examine the video of the building collapses and time the descent of the top they fall to fast to be a &quot;progressive&quot; collapse and there is no reason for any of the three structures to suddenly experience &quot;global collapse&quot; and fall as rapidly as they did.

I haven&#039;t see convincing evidence of who was in the planes that struck the two towers, that alleged to have hit the pentagon or crashed in PA.  I have read about what looks like planted evidence in the 911 Commission Report, such as a found passport on the street after the towers fell of one of the hijackers and a similar ID in PA.  I find that approaches an impossibility or a miracle.

We were told and heard some telephone calls from the hijacked planes - cell phone calls.  This was impossible at the altitudes and times they were supposed to have been made.  The FBI has admitted this now.  Those calls were faked. I don&#039;t know how, but they were not made from those planes. And Ted Olsen the Solicitor General of the US lied about the calls from his wife.

None of the hijackers names were on any of the plane manifests.  That&#039;s odd, would you say?

There is more than enough evidence presented which is pure fabrication and therefore I question the narrative and call for a new investigation.  In that light I view Mr. Lance&#039;s work as questionable and it appears he has failed to examine the evidence in the public record which conveniently, I might add, undermines his thesis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am only a 62 year old architect whose been observing things.  I am not a professional journalist such as Mr. Lance.</p>
<p>I believe I am entitled to comment &#8211; or prattle on &#8211; as you put it.  I don&#8217;t believe Mr. Lance has examined or understand the physics involved with the collapses of those 3 towers.  If he has any interest he has to rely on experts who understand these matters, such as architects and engineers. My professional opinion (for what it&#8217;s worth) is that those buildings did not collapse from steel weakened from office fires and jet fuel.  Explosive were involved.  If explosives were involved the plot thickens and more people than the 19 hijackers were involved&#8230; or another way of looking at it, if part of the story is false, you need to re examine the entire story.</p>
<p>My position is very simple.  I look at the evidence in the public record.  I can&#8217;t see a plane hitting the pentagon, so I won&#8217;t admit one did.  It may have, but the evidence is very thin on that.</p>
<p>When you examine the video of the building collapses and time the descent of the top they fall to fast to be a &#8220;progressive&#8221; collapse and there is no reason for any of the three structures to suddenly experience &#8220;global collapse&#8221; and fall as rapidly as they did.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t see convincing evidence of who was in the planes that struck the two towers, that alleged to have hit the pentagon or crashed in PA.  I have read about what looks like planted evidence in the 911 Commission Report, such as a found passport on the street after the towers fell of one of the hijackers and a similar ID in PA.  I find that approaches an impossibility or a miracle.</p>
<p>We were told and heard some telephone calls from the hijacked planes &#8211; cell phone calls.  This was impossible at the altitudes and times they were supposed to have been made.  The FBI has admitted this now.  Those calls were faked. I don&#8217;t know how, but they were not made from those planes. And Ted Olsen the Solicitor General of the US lied about the calls from his wife.</p>
<p>None of the hijackers names were on any of the plane manifests.  That&#8217;s odd, would you say?</p>
<p>There is more than enough evidence presented which is pure fabrication and therefore I question the narrative and call for a new investigation.  In that light I view Mr. Lance&#8217;s work as questionable and it appears he has failed to examine the evidence in the public record which conveniently, I might add, undermines his thesis.</p>
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		<title>By: Kingfisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kingfisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;To be fair, it would have to be noted that mr Obama was GIVEN to us as the mender of all things. The media machine sold the ‘all things to all people’ image and Mr Obama didn’t check them on it. This was a ride, and we all got on it. It has certainly bought the oligarchs more time.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe, I hate to play the victim card, though.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Are we saying here that the SEC hasn’t begun investigating the puts and other 9/11 stock questions?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

No, we are not saying that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;To be fair, it would have to be noted that mr Obama was GIVEN to us as the mender of all things. The media machine sold the ‘all things to all people’ image and Mr Obama didn’t check them on it. This was a ride, and we all got on it. It has certainly bought the oligarchs more time.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Maybe, I hate to play the victim card, though.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Are we saying here that the SEC hasn’t begun investigating the puts and other 9/11 stock questions?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>No, we are not saying that.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tonight, Obama makes his big speech about more troops to Afghanistan. Which means some questions that the MSM will NEVER touch:

Sending 30,000 more troops will let you finish this war in 3 years?

Since when is &quot;terrorism&quot; a global organization like the CIA or MI6?
Or does packaging it this way make it easier to sell to the public?

Obama will spend more on Afghan isnfrastructure (roads, schools and more). Yet teachers here continue to be underpaid and laid off.

Continuing this war means that China will keep paying for it. What will Obama do if the Chinese suddenly stop carrying our debt?

Who determines what the &quot;benchmarks&quot; are? If they constantly change, will we have even more pointless Congressional hearings on this?

The Iraqi &quot;security forces&quot; have been training now for what, eight years? Can you name one country in the world that would allow their recruits 8 years of &quot;basic training&quot;?

Gordon Brown wants Karzai to push Afghan farmers to switch from growing poppies to growing wheat. If you&#039;re a dirt poor Afghan farmer, which would YOU choose?

Does Blackwater still have it&#039;s govt. contracts for Iraq and Afghanistan? If yes, (considering all of the &quot;alleged&quot; stuff they&#039;ve done), do govt. officials feel hypocritical at all using them? 

More later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight, Obama makes his big speech about more troops to Afghanistan. Which means some questions that the MSM will NEVER touch:</p>
<p>Sending 30,000 more troops will let you finish this war in 3 years?</p>
<p>Since when is &#8220;terrorism&#8221; a global organization like the CIA or MI6?<br />
Or does packaging it this way make it easier to sell to the public?</p>
<p>Obama will spend more on Afghan isnfrastructure (roads, schools and more). Yet teachers here continue to be underpaid and laid off.</p>
<p>Continuing this war means that China will keep paying for it. What will Obama do if the Chinese suddenly stop carrying our debt?</p>
<p>Who determines what the &#8220;benchmarks&#8221; are? If they constantly change, will we have even more pointless Congressional hearings on this?</p>
<p>The Iraqi &#8220;security forces&#8221; have been training now for what, eight years? Can you name one country in the world that would allow their recruits 8 years of &#8220;basic training&#8221;?</p>
<p>Gordon Brown wants Karzai to push Afghan farmers to switch from growing poppies to growing wheat. If you&#8217;re a dirt poor Afghan farmer, which would YOU choose?</p>
<p>Does Blackwater still have it&#8217;s govt. contracts for Iraq and Afghanistan? If yes, (considering all of the &#8220;alleged&#8221; stuff they&#8217;ve done), do govt. officials feel hypocritical at all using them? </p>
<p>More later.</p>
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		<title>By: remo</title>
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		<dc:creator>remo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, it would have to be noted that mr Obama was GIVEN to us as the mender of all things. The media machine sold the &#039;all things to all people&#039; image and Mr Obama didn&#039;t check them on it. This was a ride, and we all got on it. It has certainly bought the oligarchs more time. Are we saying here that the SEC hasn&#039;t begun investigating the puts and other 9/11 stock questions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, it would have to be noted that mr Obama was GIVEN to us as the mender of all things. The media machine sold the &#8216;all things to all people&#8217; image and Mr Obama didn&#8217;t check them on it. This was a ride, and we all got on it. It has certainly bought the oligarchs more time. Are we saying here that the SEC hasn&#8217;t begun investigating the puts and other 9/11 stock questions?</p>
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		<title>By: sCRIBe</title>
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		<dc:creator>sCRIBe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im going to have to second that Kingfisher

@Sander0,

I too use to be a &quot;truther&quot; but as I read more and looked at the facts I began to use reason and logic. Your train of thought goes against all that and is rejected.

Further more to direct statements to Peter Lance for not &quot;doing his homework&quot; and &quot;missing the facts&quot; is nothing but insulting. You obviously have not done your homework because his track record proves otherwise.

What does your resume contain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im going to have to second that Kingfisher</p>
<p>@Sander0,</p>
<p>I too use to be a &#8220;truther&#8221; but as I read more and looked at the facts I began to use reason and logic. Your train of thought goes against all that and is rejected.</p>
<p>Further more to direct statements to Peter Lance for not &#8220;doing his homework&#8221; and &#8220;missing the facts&#8221; is nothing but insulting. You obviously have not done your homework because his track record proves otherwise.</p>
<p>What does your resume contain?</p>
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		<title>By: Kingfisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kingfisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@T,

I have nothing personal against Obama, nor do I question his motives or sincerity.  

That said, Candidate Obama was too many different things to too many; people projected what they wanted on him and his platform of ‘change’.  The result is that President Obama has impossible expectations to live up to.  People interpreted candidate Obama much differently then what he actually campaigned on, and too much emphasis was placed on ‘change’ through one person when the problems are beyond that of what one man can solve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@T,</p>
<p>I have nothing personal against Obama, nor do I question his motives or sincerity.  </p>
<p>That said, Candidate Obama was too many different things to too many; people projected what they wanted on him and his platform of ‘change’.  The result is that President Obama has impossible expectations to live up to.  People interpreted candidate Obama much differently then what he actually campaigned on, and too much emphasis was placed on ‘change’ through one person when the problems are beyond that of what one man can solve.</p>
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		<title>By: Kingfisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kingfisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Peter Lance is missing the story, or is that the point of his efforts?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

@Sander0,

There are plenty of websites that entertain your line of thinking; why do you need another?  Posting your prattle is one thing, but this is the second time you have insulted the author in this thread.  Please re-evaluate your behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Peter Lance is missing the story, or is that the point of his efforts?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>@Sander0,</p>
<p>There are plenty of websites that entertain your line of thinking; why do you need another?  Posting your prattle is one thing, but this is the second time you have insulted the author in this thread.  Please re-evaluate your behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Kingfisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kingfisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;He was convicted? Sounds like you’ve researched this short seller Kf. How did you find out this guy was the same one Baer was referring to? Can you give any sources? Were the convictions of fraud and conspiracy in connection with the stock short-sale operation related to the 9/11 short selling?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

@Nate,

Anthony Elgindy (born Amr Ibrahim Elgindy) was convicted and is serving a jail sentence for racketeering, securities fraud, wire fraud, and extortion.  

The convictions are not related to 9/11 short selling, they go back to 1990’s scams. It is depressing that the SEC is just now getting around to going after these lawyers, but also hopeful in that they are finally cleaning their own house.

It is not known if Elgindy is connected to 9/11 short selling (of which there is some reason to believe did happen).  There are more questions than answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;He was convicted? Sounds like you’ve researched this short seller Kf. How did you find out this guy was the same one Baer was referring to? Can you give any sources? Were the convictions of fraud and conspiracy in connection with the stock short-sale operation related to the 9/11 short selling?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>@Nate,</p>
<p>Anthony Elgindy (born Amr Ibrahim Elgindy) was convicted and is serving a jail sentence for racketeering, securities fraud, wire fraud, and extortion.  </p>
<p>The convictions are not related to 9/11 short selling, they go back to 1990’s scams. It is depressing that the SEC is just now getting around to going after these lawyers, but also hopeful in that they are finally cleaning their own house.</p>
<p>It is not known if Elgindy is connected to 9/11 short selling (of which there is some reason to believe did happen).  There are more questions than answers.</p>
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