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	<title>Comments on: Fort Hood &amp; the KSM trial- Part II: The al Qaeda Spy Who Could Be the Best Witness vs. KSM in NY</title>
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		<title>By: criticalthinking</title>
		<link>http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2009/12/01/fort-hood-the-ksm-trial-part-ii-the-al-qaeda-spy-who-could-be-the-best-witness-vs-ksm-in-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-4860</link>
		<dc:creator>criticalthinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 05:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s good claims and bogus claims about 9/11 complicity.

There&#039;s ample evidence that Cheney &amp; Co. knew 9/11 was coming.  See the Complete 9/11 Timeline by Paul Thompson at www.historycommons.org for a large list of mainstream media stories about warnings.  The timeline also has the biggest collection of stories about the numerous war game exercises underway during the attacks, including a &quot;plane into building&quot; exercise the CIA was doing at the National Reconnaissance Office near Dulles Airport.

But there&#039;s also a lot of nonsense claims and speculation that discredits the citizen investigation, either through ego, incompetence or malice.   

Interesting that someone would post to this blog a suggestion that a white supremacist neo-Nazi should be treated as a credible source on 9/11 issues -- Mr. Bollyn (referenced above) wrote for the American Free Press, an organization whose &quot;Barnes Review&quot; subsidiary claims that Adolf Hitler deserved the Nobel Peace Prize and promotes Holocaust denial.   We don&#039;t need fascists to tell us what Israeli militarism is doing, nor are they credible sources for anything, even if pieces of what they say contain truth.

John Judge, a long time researcher of deep politics (and assistant to Rep. Cynthia McKinney when she was in Congress) states that &quot;just because someone says the government is lying does not mean they are telling the truth.&quot;   This applies especially to the 9/11 truth movement, the sincere adherents understand that it was a covert operation to enable war but get most of the &quot;facts&quot; wrong.   There&#039;s virtually no fact checking in the &quot;truth&quot; movement and the defenders of the official story know to focus their attacks on the blatantly ridiculous claims (no planes, thermite, etc) rather than well documented facts that would put the enablers on the defensive (warnings and wargames).

Every major scandal has this sort of dynamic, where false claims are inserted into the public discussion to discredit the best evidence and distract attention away from the most damning material.  It was Karl Rove&#039;s speciality to do this sort of thing.  it worked to ridicule the investigations into the removal of President Kennedy from office and it is working to ridicule the 9/11 truth movement, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s good claims and bogus claims about 9/11 complicity.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s ample evidence that Cheney &amp; Co. knew 9/11 was coming.  See the Complete 9/11 Timeline by Paul Thompson at <a href="http://www.historycommons.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.historycommons.org</a> for a large list of mainstream media stories about warnings.  The timeline also has the biggest collection of stories about the numerous war game exercises underway during the attacks, including a &#8220;plane into building&#8221; exercise the CIA was doing at the National Reconnaissance Office near Dulles Airport.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s also a lot of nonsense claims and speculation that discredits the citizen investigation, either through ego, incompetence or malice.   </p>
<p>Interesting that someone would post to this blog a suggestion that a white supremacist neo-Nazi should be treated as a credible source on 9/11 issues &#8212; Mr. Bollyn (referenced above) wrote for the American Free Press, an organization whose &#8220;Barnes Review&#8221; subsidiary claims that Adolf Hitler deserved the Nobel Peace Prize and promotes Holocaust denial.   We don&#8217;t need fascists to tell us what Israeli militarism is doing, nor are they credible sources for anything, even if pieces of what they say contain truth.</p>
<p>John Judge, a long time researcher of deep politics (and assistant to Rep. Cynthia McKinney when she was in Congress) states that &#8220;just because someone says the government is lying does not mean they are telling the truth.&#8221;   This applies especially to the 9/11 truth movement, the sincere adherents understand that it was a covert operation to enable war but get most of the &#8220;facts&#8221; wrong.   There&#8217;s virtually no fact checking in the &#8220;truth&#8221; movement and the defenders of the official story know to focus their attacks on the blatantly ridiculous claims (no planes, thermite, etc) rather than well documented facts that would put the enablers on the defensive (warnings and wargames).</p>
<p>Every major scandal has this sort of dynamic, where false claims are inserted into the public discussion to discredit the best evidence and distract attention away from the most damning material.  It was Karl Rove&#8217;s speciality to do this sort of thing.  it worked to ridicule the investigations into the removal of President Kennedy from office and it is working to ridicule the 9/11 truth movement, too.</p>
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		<title>By: zakon</title>
		<link>http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2009/12/01/fort-hood-the-ksm-trial-part-ii-the-al-qaeda-spy-who-could-be-the-best-witness-vs-ksm-in-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-4849</link>
		<dc:creator>zakon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is irrelevant whether KSM is a citizen or not, we citizens have a Constitutional right to hear his trial&#039;s arguments and evidence.  KSM, call ALI MOHAMED TO THE STAND!

An Islamic radical and Egyptian ex-commando, Ali Mohamed, worked at Fort Bragg in the Pentagon&#039;s Special Forces, was an FBI informant and CIA asset, but yet, Ali Mohamed was also:

- Osama Bin Laden&#039;s personal security chief
- Escorted Al Qaeda’s second-in-command, Al-Zawahiri, in the US on &#039;fund raising&#039; trips
- Trained the World Trade Center 1993 bombing cell
- Took the targeting photos of the bombed US African Embassies. 

Ali Mohamed has been in US ghost custody since 2000 – meaning, he hasn’t spent a day in prison.


KSM, if you have worked with him, call ALI MOHAMED TO THE STAND so we citizens can hear!  

But alas, why do you believe KSM’s trial will be in Dick Cheney&#039;s newly created and secretive “military” commission? (Which is separate from our civilian and military Constitutional justice system—a creation of the Bush Administration and Republican Congress through the illegitimate “Military Commissions Act” of 2006. Do NOT confuse it with real Constitutional based military justice!)  

Have you ever heard of the good cop (Obama) / bad cop (Cheney’s) routine?


Peter, I truly appreciate your work. Thank you for letting us read between the lines.  You don&#039;t have to vocalize what is obvious, you have done enough for the truth.  Ali is the smoking gun link between the US Empire and its Al Qeada hitman squad. Suppressing the KSM trial means indefinite plausible denial-ability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is irrelevant whether KSM is a citizen or not, we citizens have a Constitutional right to hear his trial&#8217;s arguments and evidence.  KSM, call ALI MOHAMED TO THE STAND!</p>
<p>An Islamic radical and Egyptian ex-commando, Ali Mohamed, worked at Fort Bragg in the Pentagon&#8217;s Special Forces, was an FBI informant and CIA asset, but yet, Ali Mohamed was also:</p>
<p>- Osama Bin Laden&#8217;s personal security chief<br />
- Escorted Al Qaeda’s second-in-command, Al-Zawahiri, in the US on &#8216;fund raising&#8217; trips<br />
- Trained the World Trade Center 1993 bombing cell<br />
- Took the targeting photos of the bombed US African Embassies. </p>
<p>Ali Mohamed has been in US ghost custody since 2000 – meaning, he hasn’t spent a day in prison.</p>
<p>KSM, if you have worked with him, call ALI MOHAMED TO THE STAND so we citizens can hear!  </p>
<p>But alas, why do you believe KSM’s trial will be in Dick Cheney&#8217;s newly created and secretive “military” commission? (Which is separate from our civilian and military Constitutional justice system—a creation of the Bush Administration and Republican Congress through the illegitimate “Military Commissions Act” of 2006. Do NOT confuse it with real Constitutional based military justice!)  </p>
<p>Have you ever heard of the good cop (Obama) / bad cop (Cheney’s) routine?</p>
<p>Peter, I truly appreciate your work. Thank you for letting us read between the lines.  You don&#8217;t have to vocalize what is obvious, you have done enough for the truth.  Ali is the smoking gun link between the US Empire and its Al Qeada hitman squad. Suppressing the KSM trial means indefinite plausible denial-ability.</p>
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		<title>By: ProudPrimate</title>
		<link>http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2009/12/01/fort-hood-the-ksm-trial-part-ii-the-al-qaeda-spy-who-could-be-the-best-witness-vs-ksm-in-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-3845</link>
		<dc:creator>ProudPrimate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As bin Laden’s trusted security advisor Ali Mohamed almost certainly knew of the planes-as-missiles operation that KSM was executing by 1998.&quot;
The Lone Gunmen certainly knew that routine as well, as evidenced by their awesome pilot episode [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB6EWF3vulc ] on Fox in March of 2001.  (Condie apparently missed that screening.)
&quot;So why couldn’t Patrick Fitzgerald and the elite agents of the FBI’s Bin Laden squad have squeezed the plot out of him?&quot;
How big a bet says Fitz and them have nothing to hide in this matter?
&quot;The 1994 WTC bombing trial&quot;
. . . the bombing that the FBI promised Emad Salem they would substitute fake powder, and then double-crossed him?  As is proven by his brilliant and daring bugging of his own conversations with them, famously reported in the NYT (http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/28/nyregion/tapes-depict-proposal-to-thwart-bomb-used-in-trade-center-blast.html  Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast &quot; By RALPH BLUMENTHAL Published: October 28, 1993)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As bin Laden’s trusted security advisor Ali Mohamed almost certainly knew of the planes-as-missiles operation that KSM was executing by 1998.&#8221;<br />
The Lone Gunmen certainly knew that routine as well, as evidenced by their awesome pilot episode [ <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB6EWF3vulc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB6EWF3vulc</a> ] on Fox in March of 2001.  (Condie apparently missed that screening.)<br />
&#8220;So why couldn’t Patrick Fitzgerald and the elite agents of the FBI’s Bin Laden squad have squeezed the plot out of him?&#8221;<br />
How big a bet says Fitz and them have nothing to hide in this matter?<br />
&#8220;The 1994 WTC bombing trial&#8221;<br />
. . . the bombing that the FBI promised Emad Salem they would substitute fake powder, and then double-crossed him?  As is proven by his brilliant and daring bugging of his own conversations with them, famously reported in the NYT (<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/28/nyregion/tapes-depict-proposal-to-thwart-bomb-used-in-trade-center-blast.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/28/nyregion/tapes-depict-proposal-to-thwart-bomb-used-in-trade-center-blast.html</a>  Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast &#8221; By RALPH BLUMENTHAL Published: October 28, 1993)</p>
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		<title>By: SanderO</title>
		<link>http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2009/12/01/fort-hood-the-ksm-trial-part-ii-the-al-qaeda-spy-who-could-be-the-best-witness-vs-ksm-in-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-3796</link>
		<dc:creator>SanderO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose it depends on whether you consider KSM a soldier or a civilian criminal.  Enemy combatant is is a non state person who is believed to be engaged in non state terrorism.  States do terrorism too.  Just look at the &quot;shock and awe&quot; as this clearly was an act of state terrorism.

I consider the events of 9/11 crimes not acts of war.  And as such those charged with involvement should be tried in civilian courts with the presumption of innocence until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and in capital cases I believe the jury must reach a unanimous decision.

The CIA&#039;s 23 operatives were recently tried (in absentia) and convicted of kidnapping in Italy.  I would have thought that if they were innocent of the charges they would have mounted a vigorous defense with the CIA supplying the best lawyers. Their failure to present a defense was telling and the failure of the US to honor its extradition treaties with out ally Italy is even more telling.

Trials need to be open, thorough and fair.  Secret evidence and evidence gathered through torture should not be permissible and if such evidence exists it should be the basis for prosecution of those involved with torture, a clear violation of the Geneva conventions which are part of US law.

Military tribunals in the case of the Gitmo prisoners are clearly attempts to provide &quot;less justice&quot; and keep lots of evidence from the public.  Having said that, I expect a show trial for KSM in the tradition of the USSR or any authoritarian government which uses trials for political agendas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose it depends on whether you consider KSM a soldier or a civilian criminal.  Enemy combatant is is a non state person who is believed to be engaged in non state terrorism.  States do terrorism too.  Just look at the &#8220;shock and awe&#8221; as this clearly was an act of state terrorism.</p>
<p>I consider the events of 9/11 crimes not acts of war.  And as such those charged with involvement should be tried in civilian courts with the presumption of innocence until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and in capital cases I believe the jury must reach a unanimous decision.</p>
<p>The CIA&#8217;s 23 operatives were recently tried (in absentia) and convicted of kidnapping in Italy.  I would have thought that if they were innocent of the charges they would have mounted a vigorous defense with the CIA supplying the best lawyers. Their failure to present a defense was telling and the failure of the US to honor its extradition treaties with out ally Italy is even more telling.</p>
<p>Trials need to be open, thorough and fair.  Secret evidence and evidence gathered through torture should not be permissible and if such evidence exists it should be the basis for prosecution of those involved with torture, a clear violation of the Geneva conventions which are part of US law.</p>
<p>Military tribunals in the case of the Gitmo prisoners are clearly attempts to provide &#8220;less justice&#8221; and keep lots of evidence from the public.  Having said that, I expect a show trial for KSM in the tradition of the USSR or any authoritarian government which uses trials for political agendas.</p>
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		<title>By: drlax15m</title>
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		<dc:creator>drlax15m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 05:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Lance,

I&#039;m also troubled by the letter you posted on your website from &quot;the Jersey girls&quot; and the language they used in their support of the civilian trials for KSM and his cohorts, or more accurately, their letter to denigrate those who are opposed to the civilian trials.  &quot;Knee-jerk&quot; certainly does not accurately characterize my reaction to Holder&#039;s decision and I am appalled they would cast such a blanket assertion.  I saw Holder&#039;s decision coming more than a year in advance, I even sent an email out to some friends and colleagues a year and three days before Holder officially announced the decision, warning of precisely that.  If you have any idea how I could contact any of them, I would love to be able to have a discussion with them to iron out any misunderstands from their as well as my perspective.  My reaction is also largely supported by your investigative work, thank you for doing such a great job! I attended the Dec 5th Rally in Foley square, and the so called &quot;frenzy&quot; seemed to be created by fairly informed people, not fear mongers. It is an insult, a very deep insult.  I would politely ask the Jersey girls not to denigrate us in their future support of these trials, and stick to whatever logic and justification they can conjure that is behind Holder&#039;s decision (since they are still using military tribunals and he said himself KSM and co. could have been tried in either!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Lance,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also troubled by the letter you posted on your website from &#8220;the Jersey girls&#8221; and the language they used in their support of the civilian trials for KSM and his cohorts, or more accurately, their letter to denigrate those who are opposed to the civilian trials.  &#8220;Knee-jerk&#8221; certainly does not accurately characterize my reaction to Holder&#8217;s decision and I am appalled they would cast such a blanket assertion.  I saw Holder&#8217;s decision coming more than a year in advance, I even sent an email out to some friends and colleagues a year and three days before Holder officially announced the decision, warning of precisely that.  If you have any idea how I could contact any of them, I would love to be able to have a discussion with them to iron out any misunderstands from their as well as my perspective.  My reaction is also largely supported by your investigative work, thank you for doing such a great job! I attended the Dec 5th Rally in Foley square, and the so called &#8220;frenzy&#8221; seemed to be created by fairly informed people, not fear mongers. It is an insult, a very deep insult.  I would politely ask the Jersey girls not to denigrate us in their future support of these trials, and stick to whatever logic and justification they can conjure that is behind Holder&#8217;s decision (since they are still using military tribunals and he said himself KSM and co. could have been tried in either!).</p>
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		<title>By: drlax15m</title>
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		<dc:creator>drlax15m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are other detainees still being tried in military tribunals? Holder even said KSM and cohorts could have been tried in either, but could not expand coherently on his reasoning for his choice, beyond the target choices.  This policy to me does not seem consistent, and Holder could not explain how future enemy combatants who are captured would be handled.

The Fort Hood massacre was not prevented because of political correctness.  How fast would it have taken the ACLU to slap a lawsuit on the government had they taken any action against Hasan?  The majority of the media barely acknowledge the radical islam side to the story, and Obama urged us not to rush to judgement, and wanted the investigation postponed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are other detainees still being tried in military tribunals? Holder even said KSM and cohorts could have been tried in either, but could not expand coherently on his reasoning for his choice, beyond the target choices.  This policy to me does not seem consistent, and Holder could not explain how future enemy combatants who are captured would be handled.</p>
<p>The Fort Hood massacre was not prevented because of political correctness.  How fast would it have taken the ACLU to slap a lawsuit on the government had they taken any action against Hasan?  The majority of the media barely acknowledge the radical islam side to the story, and Obama urged us not to rush to judgement, and wanted the investigation postponed!</p>
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		<title>By: drlax15m</title>
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		<dc:creator>drlax15m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Lance,

You said the previous terror trials went on without incident. Are you recanting your theory about what potentially took down TWA 800?

As for being against KSM being tried in civilian court, which I am, based largely off my reading of your trilogy. Do you really think anything good will come out of that show trial?  If they needed Ali Mohammed to convict KSM, which they don&#039;t, this would never have been moved out of a Military Tribunal.  It is most certainly a show trial, because they&#039;ve already admitted that upon the even of an acquittal, they would not be released.

Trying Yousef did nothing to prevent his &quot;planes operation&quot; from coming to fruition. What would you have proposed we would have done with KSM after his capture? Bring him straight to civilian trial? Not interrogate him for intelligence to prevent more attacks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Lance,</p>
<p>You said the previous terror trials went on without incident. Are you recanting your theory about what potentially took down TWA 800?</p>
<p>As for being against KSM being tried in civilian court, which I am, based largely off my reading of your trilogy. Do you really think anything good will come out of that show trial?  If they needed Ali Mohammed to convict KSM, which they don&#8217;t, this would never have been moved out of a Military Tribunal.  It is most certainly a show trial, because they&#8217;ve already admitted that upon the even of an acquittal, they would not be released.</p>
<p>Trying Yousef did nothing to prevent his &#8220;planes operation&#8221; from coming to fruition. What would you have proposed we would have done with KSM after his capture? Bring him straight to civilian trial? Not interrogate him for intelligence to prevent more attacks?</p>
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		<title>By: SanderO</title>
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		<dc:creator>SanderO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 06:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I am far from convinced about the case for high tech explosives such as nano thermites, public information published by reliable scientists (not &quot;truthers&quot;) indicate that these have some unique and flexible characteristics for use as explosives.  Depneding on how they are constituted the same chemical perform dramatically different.

Nano thermite can be made into a substance applied in the same manner as ordinary paint - rolled, brushed or strayed on.

If this is so and these were some of the explosives used they could have even been applied unwittingly by building maintenance or painting crews doing normal work in the buildings.  Who would suspect that applications to steel structure, replacing the asbestos fireproofing which was being removed in a massive project was not in fact nano thermite explosives?  If such applications is possible this could easily explain how the buildings core columns were coated with explosives in plain sight.

Or how about the idea that drop in ceiling tiles which were manufactured with a nano thermite coating on the back (unseen side) were also installed as remodeling or routine maintenance. This too could have and would have taken place in the evening when offices were not in use again installed unwittingly by building contractors without drawing any attention to something untoward being done.

The towers were under going the largest elevator upgrade project ever undertaken in the world.  And so it would be normal for work to be going on in the core area throughout the entire 110 floors.

All this is speculation and fun to do.  But once the notion that the buildings collapsed from office fires started by burning jet fuel is ruled impossible the only culprit IS explosives and the investigation will hopefully provide all the answers.

The key here is to be able to look dispassionately at the events, extract the facts, apply science and math, chemistry, physics, forensic analyses and let the findings speak for themselves.

There are no engineers who can model those collapses from office fires. All attempts leave out important details or set absurd assumptions in their equations.  This is dishonest, professional misconduct and fraud.

Look at the facts, do the math,  Numbers don&#039;t lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I am far from convinced about the case for high tech explosives such as nano thermites, public information published by reliable scientists (not &#8220;truthers&#8221;) indicate that these have some unique and flexible characteristics for use as explosives.  Depneding on how they are constituted the same chemical perform dramatically different.</p>
<p>Nano thermite can be made into a substance applied in the same manner as ordinary paint &#8211; rolled, brushed or strayed on.</p>
<p>If this is so and these were some of the explosives used they could have even been applied unwittingly by building maintenance or painting crews doing normal work in the buildings.  Who would suspect that applications to steel structure, replacing the asbestos fireproofing which was being removed in a massive project was not in fact nano thermite explosives?  If such applications is possible this could easily explain how the buildings core columns were coated with explosives in plain sight.</p>
<p>Or how about the idea that drop in ceiling tiles which were manufactured with a nano thermite coating on the back (unseen side) were also installed as remodeling or routine maintenance. This too could have and would have taken place in the evening when offices were not in use again installed unwittingly by building contractors without drawing any attention to something untoward being done.</p>
<p>The towers were under going the largest elevator upgrade project ever undertaken in the world.  And so it would be normal for work to be going on in the core area throughout the entire 110 floors.</p>
<p>All this is speculation and fun to do.  But once the notion that the buildings collapsed from office fires started by burning jet fuel is ruled impossible the only culprit IS explosives and the investigation will hopefully provide all the answers.</p>
<p>The key here is to be able to look dispassionately at the events, extract the facts, apply science and math, chemistry, physics, forensic analyses and let the findings speak for themselves.</p>
<p>There are no engineers who can model those collapses from office fires. All attempts leave out important details or set absurd assumptions in their equations.  This is dishonest, professional misconduct and fraud.</p>
<p>Look at the facts, do the math,  Numbers don&#8217;t lie.</p>
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		<title>By: ZicaTanka</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZicaTanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, last comment was pretty petty.  I&#039;m sorry to all for that.

Most of us, out here on the frontier, are just waiting for a bunch of heads to roll.  Some of us are hoping it&#039;s not our own heads, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, last comment was pretty petty.  I&#8217;m sorry to all for that.</p>
<p>Most of us, out here on the frontier, are just waiting for a bunch of heads to roll.  Some of us are hoping it&#8217;s not our own heads, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: ZicaTanka</title>
		<link>http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2009/12/01/fort-hood-the-ksm-trial-part-ii-the-al-qaeda-spy-who-could-be-the-best-witness-vs-ksm-in-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-3700</link>
		<dc:creator>ZicaTanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sCAb, My guess is that you and KingFisher haven&#039;t had much to be afraid of in your lives.

Great job at being born into your lives and making the most of it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sCAb, My guess is that you and KingFisher haven&#8217;t had much to be afraid of in your lives.</p>
<p>Great job at being born into your lives and making the most of it!</p>
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		<title>By: ZicaTanka</title>
		<link>http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2009/12/01/fort-hood-the-ksm-trial-part-ii-the-al-qaeda-spy-who-could-be-the-best-witness-vs-ksm-in-ny/comment-page-1/#comment-3697</link>
		<dc:creator>ZicaTanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, ScribE,

Where&#039;s the proof that you&#039;re not a dumbass?

How do you know what people would have seen?

How do you know how many people it would take?

Oh, I know, you&#039;re the &quot;former truther&quot;, right?  That really brings a lot of respect.  I wish I could be like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, ScribE,</p>
<p>Where&#8217;s the proof that you&#8217;re not a dumbass?</p>
<p>How do you know what people would have seen?</p>
<p>How do you know how many people it would take?</p>
<p>Oh, I know, you&#8217;re the &#8220;former truther&#8221;, right?  That really brings a lot of respect.  I wish I could be like you.</p>
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		<title>By: sCRIBe</title>
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		<dc:creator>sCRIBe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where is the proof of planting nano-thermite? people would have seen all the work going on installing this. It would take so many people on so many levels and someone would be talking</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where is the proof of planting nano-thermite? people would have seen all the work going on installing this. It would take so many people on so many levels and someone would be talking</p>
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