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	<title>Comments on: Updates &amp; Weekly Round Up for December 12</title>
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		<title>By: Konstantin</title>
		<link>http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2009/12/12/updates-weekly-round-up-for-december-12/comment-page-1/#comment-3894</link>
		<dc:creator>Konstantin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a system to detect heart and respiration rates with microwave doppler radar. I don&#039;t know if the same method used in FAST.

Non-contact measurement of heart and respiration rates with a single-chip microwave doppler radar
http://transducers.stanford.edu/Publications/DroitcourThesis.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a system to detect heart and respiration rates with microwave doppler radar. I don&#8217;t know if the same method used in FAST.</p>
<p>Non-contact measurement of heart and respiration rates with a single-chip microwave doppler radar<br />
<a href="http://transducers.stanford.edu/Publications/DroitcourThesis.html" rel="nofollow">http://transducers.stanford.edu/Publications/DroitcourThesis.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: ZicaTanka</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZicaTanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@True Oil:  Is there a reason for adding this slick, non-verifiable, paranoid-sounding personal story in the comments here?  Isn&#039;t it about time you mentioned UFOs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@True Oil:  Is there a reason for adding this slick, non-verifiable, paranoid-sounding personal story in the comments here?  Isn&#8217;t it about time you mentioned UFOs?</p>
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		<title>By: True Oil</title>
		<link>http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2009/12/12/updates-weekly-round-up-for-december-12/comment-page-1/#comment-3873</link>
		<dc:creator>True Oil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and when I called 911 for the Fire/Rescue to come and hopefully remove this microchip in my arm, after Bush stole the 2004 election, they waved a cat toy laser pen over it and said &quot;you don&#039;t go to the emergency dept. for this, tell your doctor the next time you see him&quot; smirkingly.

A laser pen! Since when did they start using such advanced diagnostic tools?

And I can&#039;t get an attorney, there is no conspiracy or coverup.
You decide.

Don&#039;t those people take an Oath too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and when I called 911 for the Fire/Rescue to come and hopefully remove this microchip in my arm, after Bush stole the 2004 election, they waved a cat toy laser pen over it and said &#8220;you don&#8217;t go to the emergency dept. for this, tell your doctor the next time you see him&#8221; smirkingly.</p>
<p>A laser pen! Since when did they start using such advanced diagnostic tools?</p>
<p>And I can&#8217;t get an attorney, there is no conspiracy or coverup.<br />
You decide.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t those people take an Oath too?</p>
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		<title>By: mcthorogood</title>
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		<dc:creator>mcthorogood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 06:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is that the establishment, i.e., Republicans, Democrats, and corporations can control the minds of 300+ million people?  Simply, by the MSM not reporting the truth, the whole truth and nothing, but, the truth.  You can say that I&#039;m lucky, I turned my T.V. off 25 years ago. I can&#039;t regurgitate the latest shinola reported on T.V. and I don&#039;t derisively dismiss anyone&#039;s views by calling them a conspiracy theorist.

Chris Hedges wrote an article several days ago asking why the political right has the loudest voice, while the left lacks leadership.  Ron Paul had a single unifying message that anyone could understand; the U.S. Constitution is the law of the land.  Stemming from that singular message are many corollaries, such as the legal war, legal immigration, and states&#039; rights, that were denied a venue at the Presidential debates.

The left vs. right scenario is a fabrication that serves to keep the electorate divided. Thomas Jefferson once said, &quot;If I had to choose between government without newspapers, and newspapers without government, I wouldn&#039;t hesitate to choose the latter.&quot; Today, the U.S. is a corpocracy allowed to exist by an impotent fourth estate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is that the establishment, i.e., Republicans, Democrats, and corporations can control the minds of 300+ million people?  Simply, by the MSM not reporting the truth, the whole truth and nothing, but, the truth.  You can say that I&#8217;m lucky, I turned my T.V. off 25 years ago. I can&#8217;t regurgitate the latest shinola reported on T.V. and I don&#8217;t derisively dismiss anyone&#8217;s views by calling them a conspiracy theorist.</p>
<p>Chris Hedges wrote an article several days ago asking why the political right has the loudest voice, while the left lacks leadership.  Ron Paul had a single unifying message that anyone could understand; the U.S. Constitution is the law of the land.  Stemming from that singular message are many corollaries, such as the legal war, legal immigration, and states&#8217; rights, that were denied a venue at the Presidential debates.</p>
<p>The left vs. right scenario is a fabrication that serves to keep the electorate divided. Thomas Jefferson once said, &#8220;If I had to choose between government without newspapers, and newspapers without government, I wouldn&#8217;t hesitate to choose the latter.&#8221; Today, the U.S. is a corpocracy allowed to exist by an impotent fourth estate.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 22:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another angle on this.As this gets worse, does it seem like the &quot;pundits&quot; book list is getting longer? Pundits in this case are people who&#039;ve never been to Afghanistan and don&#039;t take the time to do their research (unlike those who post here).

It&#039;s kind of like the global meltdown. No accountability continues. And now there are even more books about this. The latest: Brian Ross&#039;s new book about Madoff. I saw him on C-SPAN plugging it. And frankly it wasn&#039;t much of a pitch to buy it. &quot;There was much more than meets the eye with Madoff.&quot; Not exactly an earth-shattering statement from ABC&#039;s top investigative guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another angle on this.As this gets worse, does it seem like the &#8220;pundits&#8221; book list is getting longer? Pundits in this case are people who&#8217;ve never been to Afghanistan and don&#8217;t take the time to do their research (unlike those who post here).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of like the global meltdown. No accountability continues. And now there are even more books about this. The latest: Brian Ross&#8217;s new book about Madoff. I saw him on C-SPAN plugging it. And frankly it wasn&#8217;t much of a pitch to buy it. &#8220;There was much more than meets the eye with Madoff.&#8221; Not exactly an earth-shattering statement from ABC&#8217;s top investigative guy.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 22:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Afghanistan is a quagmire. But here&#039;s an idea that might break us out of the Two-Party-Blame-Them-For-Everything-That&#039;s-Wrong mentality.

Since the MSM loves something outrageous to draw attention to an issue, how come more politicians (like Paul) don&#039;t do this? We all know the usual responses:

You have to work within the system.
You have to give it time.
(The Pelosi Doctrine)First, we have the votes. Then we don&#039;t. Then we do. You&#039;re only the Speaker of the House. Is it that hard to keep track of this?

Why don&#039;t the Democrats filibuster? Why don&#039;t they let the neocons do it if they threaten to? The point is that the status quo of not rocking the system doesn&#039;t work. Yet the other side of it is that nobody wants to lose their seat during this global meltdown.

At least this site is doing it&#039;s part. So let&#039;s keep working at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Afghanistan is a quagmire. But here&#8217;s an idea that might break us out of the Two-Party-Blame-Them-For-Everything-That&#8217;s-Wrong mentality.</p>
<p>Since the MSM loves something outrageous to draw attention to an issue, how come more politicians (like Paul) don&#8217;t do this? We all know the usual responses:</p>
<p>You have to work within the system.<br />
You have to give it time.<br />
(The Pelosi Doctrine)First, we have the votes. Then we don&#8217;t. Then we do. You&#8217;re only the Speaker of the House. Is it that hard to keep track of this?</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t the Democrats filibuster? Why don&#8217;t they let the neocons do it if they threaten to? The point is that the status quo of not rocking the system doesn&#8217;t work. Yet the other side of it is that nobody wants to lose their seat during this global meltdown.</p>
<p>At least this site is doing it&#8217;s part. So let&#8217;s keep working at it.</p>
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		<title>By: True Oil</title>
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		<dc:creator>True Oil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sibel

I am so glad you decided to write about Obama and John Yoo.

It is a Moral Outrage that the War Criminal, John Yoo, is being protected by the Obama Administration for his part in the TORTURING of an AMERICAN CITIZEN. I wonder how many citizens might be able to make similar claims of torture by our Govt. using clandestine methods that aren&#039;t talked about openly, and if they are the people are discredited as being &quot;mentally ill&quot; even if they are not. 
Might they use possible technological features as quoted in your other piece, Down the Police State Lane. In fact, I know they do - on a personal level.

Homeland Security Embarks on Big Brother Programs to Read Our Minds and Emotions. I think they&#039;ve been perfecting this on me, remotely.

The “non-invasive” claim might be a bit of a stretch. A DHS report issued last December outlined some of the possible technological features of FAST, which include “a remote cardiovascular and respiratory sensor” to measure “heart rate, heart rate variability, respiration rate, and respiratory sinus arrhythmia,” a “remote eye tracker” that “uses a camera and processing software to track the position and gaze of the eyes (and, in some instances, the entire head),” “thermal cameras that provide detailed information on the changes in the thermal properties of the skin in the face,” and “a high resolution video that allows for highly detailed images of the face and body … and an audio system for analyzing human voice for pitch change.”

&#039;possible technological features&#039;

you betcha&#039;

And now even if I could get a lawyer, which I can&#039;t and Lord knows I&#039;ve tried, I would be unable to even bring a Suit to prosecute the people responsible for enacting the methods, many of them used on me that are in the Jose Padilla lawsuit. I am talking about years John Yoo, and YOU know it.

GO F YOURSELF YOO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sibel</p>
<p>I am so glad you decided to write about Obama and John Yoo.</p>
<p>It is a Moral Outrage that the War Criminal, John Yoo, is being protected by the Obama Administration for his part in the TORTURING of an AMERICAN CITIZEN. I wonder how many citizens might be able to make similar claims of torture by our Govt. using clandestine methods that aren&#8217;t talked about openly, and if they are the people are discredited as being &#8220;mentally ill&#8221; even if they are not.<br />
Might they use possible technological features as quoted in your other piece, Down the Police State Lane. In fact, I know they do &#8211; on a personal level.</p>
<p>Homeland Security Embarks on Big Brother Programs to Read Our Minds and Emotions. I think they&#8217;ve been perfecting this on me, remotely.</p>
<p>The “non-invasive” claim might be a bit of a stretch. A DHS report issued last December outlined some of the possible technological features of FAST, which include “a remote cardiovascular and respiratory sensor” to measure “heart rate, heart rate variability, respiration rate, and respiratory sinus arrhythmia,” a “remote eye tracker” that “uses a camera and processing software to track the position and gaze of the eyes (and, in some instances, the entire head),” “thermal cameras that provide detailed information on the changes in the thermal properties of the skin in the face,” and “a high resolution video that allows for highly detailed images of the face and body … and an audio system for analyzing human voice for pitch change.”</p>
<p>&#8216;possible technological features&#8217;</p>
<p>you betcha&#8217;</p>
<p>And now even if I could get a lawyer, which I can&#8217;t and Lord knows I&#8217;ve tried, I would be unable to even bring a Suit to prosecute the people responsible for enacting the methods, many of them used on me that are in the Jose Padilla lawsuit. I am talking about years John Yoo, and YOU know it.</p>
<p>GO F YOURSELF YOO.</p>
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		<title>By: Konstantin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Konstantin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember reading in the past about a method of detecting a person&#039;s heart rate at a distance by bouncing microwaves off a person&#039;s chest. The article&#039;s I checked now don&#039;t mention how they do the measurements of heart rate. If this is how they do the &quot;measurement&quot; tthe difference between measurement and damage to the heart is how much power they use.

What they&#039;re doing does seem invasive. From the way these people describe what they&#039;re doing, the imprerssion that comes across is like they view the people as their property to do with as they will as though they&#039;re the superiors and the people should be subordinate to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember reading in the past about a method of detecting a person&#8217;s heart rate at a distance by bouncing microwaves off a person&#8217;s chest. The article&#8217;s I checked now don&#8217;t mention how they do the measurements of heart rate. If this is how they do the &#8220;measurement&#8221; tthe difference between measurement and damage to the heart is how much power they use.</p>
<p>What they&#8217;re doing does seem invasive. From the way these people describe what they&#8217;re doing, the imprerssion that comes across is like they view the people as their property to do with as they will as though they&#8217;re the superiors and the people should be subordinate to them.</p>
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		<title>By: SanderO</title>
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		<dc:creator>SanderO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drugs money worth billions of dollars kept the financial system afloat at the height of the global crisis, the United Nations&#039; drugs and crime tsar has told the Observer.

Antonio Maria Costa, head of the UN Office on Drugs and Crime, said he has seen evidence that the proceeds of organised crime were &quot;the only liquid investment capital&quot; available to some banks on the brink of collapse last year. He said that a majority of the $352bn (£216bn) of drugs profits was absorbed into the economic system as a result.

This will raise questions about crime&#039;s influence on the economic system at times of crisis. It will also prompt further examination of the banking sector as world leaders, including Barack Obama and Gordon Brown, call for new International Monetary Fund regulations. Speaking from his office in Vienna, Costa said evidence that illegal money was being absorbed into the financial system was first drawn to his attention by intelligence agencies and prosecutors around 18 months ago. &quot;In many instances, the money from drugs was the only liquid investment capital. In the second half of 2008, liquidity was the banking system&#039;s main problem and hence liquid capital became an important factor,&quot; he said.

Some of the evidence put before his office indicated that gang money was used to save some banks from collapse when lending seized up, he said.

&quot;Inter-bank loans were funded by money that originated from the drugs trade and other illegal activities... There were signs that some banks were rescued that way.&quot; Costa declined to identify countries or banks that may have received any drugs money, saying that would be inappropriate because his office is supposed to address the problem, not apportion blame. But he said the money is now a part of the official system and had been effectively laundered.

&quot;That was the moment [last year] when the system was basically paralysed because of the unwillingness of banks to lend money to one another. The progressive liquidisation to the system and the progressive improvement by some banks of their share values [has meant that] the problem [of illegal money] has become much less serious than it was,&quot; he said.

The IMF estimated that large US and European banks lost more than $1tn on toxic assets and from bad loans from January 2007 to September 2009 and more than 200 mortgage lenders went bankrupt. Many major institutions either failed, were acquired under duress, or were subject to government takeover.
Rajeev Syal
The Observer, Sunday 13 December 2009
 
&quot;Gangs are now believed to make most of their profits from the drugs trade and are estimated to be worth £352bn, the UN says. They have traditionally kept proceeds in cash or moved it offshore to hide it from the authorities. It is understood that evidence that drug money has flowed into banks came from officials in Britain, Switzerland, Italy and the US.

British bankers would want to see any evidence that Costa has to back his claims. A British Bankers&#039; Association spokesman said: &quot;We have not been party to any regulatory dialogue that would support a theory of this kind. There was clearly a lack of liquidity in the system and to a large degree this was filled by the intervention of central banks.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drugs money worth billions of dollars kept the financial system afloat at the height of the global crisis, the United Nations&#8217; drugs and crime tsar has told the Observer.</p>
<p>Antonio Maria Costa, head of the UN Office on Drugs and Crime, said he has seen evidence that the proceeds of organised crime were &#8220;the only liquid investment capital&#8221; available to some banks on the brink of collapse last year. He said that a majority of the $352bn (£216bn) of drugs profits was absorbed into the economic system as a result.</p>
<p>This will raise questions about crime&#8217;s influence on the economic system at times of crisis. It will also prompt further examination of the banking sector as world leaders, including Barack Obama and Gordon Brown, call for new International Monetary Fund regulations. Speaking from his office in Vienna, Costa said evidence that illegal money was being absorbed into the financial system was first drawn to his attention by intelligence agencies and prosecutors around 18 months ago. &#8220;In many instances, the money from drugs was the only liquid investment capital. In the second half of 2008, liquidity was the banking system&#8217;s main problem and hence liquid capital became an important factor,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>Some of the evidence put before his office indicated that gang money was used to save some banks from collapse when lending seized up, he said.</p>
<p>&#8220;Inter-bank loans were funded by money that originated from the drugs trade and other illegal activities&#8230; There were signs that some banks were rescued that way.&#8221; Costa declined to identify countries or banks that may have received any drugs money, saying that would be inappropriate because his office is supposed to address the problem, not apportion blame. But he said the money is now a part of the official system and had been effectively laundered.</p>
<p>&#8220;That was the moment [last year] when the system was basically paralysed because of the unwillingness of banks to lend money to one another. The progressive liquidisation to the system and the progressive improvement by some banks of their share values [has meant that] the problem [of illegal money] has become much less serious than it was,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>The IMF estimated that large US and European banks lost more than $1tn on toxic assets and from bad loans from January 2007 to September 2009 and more than 200 mortgage lenders went bankrupt. Many major institutions either failed, were acquired under duress, or were subject to government takeover.<br />
Rajeev Syal<br />
The Observer, Sunday 13 December 2009</p>
<p>&#8220;Gangs are now believed to make most of their profits from the drugs trade and are estimated to be worth £352bn, the UN says. They have traditionally kept proceeds in cash or moved it offshore to hide it from the authorities. It is understood that evidence that drug money has flowed into banks came from officials in Britain, Switzerland, Italy and the US.</p>
<p>British bankers would want to see any evidence that Costa has to back his claims. A British Bankers&#8217; Association spokesman said: &#8220;We have not been party to any regulatory dialogue that would support a theory of this kind. There was clearly a lack of liquidity in the system and to a large degree this was filled by the intervention of central banks.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ZicaTanka</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZicaTanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that obedience to the point of going against one&#039;s own conscience is a factor in both VUI and torture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that obedience to the point of going against one&#8217;s own conscience is a factor in both VUI and torture.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bergman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bergman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Paul makes a lot of sense, but one question I have is whether his assertion that the Constitution requires that we get a Congressional declaration of war before going to war really holds water, Constitutionally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Paul makes a lot of sense, but one question I have is whether his assertion that the Constitution requires that we get a Congressional declaration of war before going to war really holds water, Constitutionally.</p>
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		<title>By: zaknick</title>
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		<dc:creator>zaknick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@metem

Wow

That link also led to these victims inside the matrix:

http://www.upi.com/video/Issue_of_the_Day/2009/12/11/reaction_gates_predicts_new_iran_sanctions/UPI-12605566029700/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@metem</p>
<p>Wow</p>
<p>That link also led to these victims inside the matrix:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.upi.com/video/Issue_of_the_Day/2009/12/11/reaction_gates_predicts_new_iran_sanctions/UPI-12605566029700/" rel="nofollow">http://www.upi.com/video/Issue_of_the_Day/2009/12/11/reaction_gates_predicts_new_iran_sanctions/UPI-12605566029700/</a></p>
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