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	<title>Comments on: Obama Appoints a Not-Too-Long-Ago-Hatched Neocon Larva</title>
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		<title>By: escobar</title>
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		<dc:creator>escobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I truly hope Mr. Bryza gets appointed soon, and not because I&#039;m not concerned about American true interests, but because it will prove to be a great in-your-face to Sibel Edmonds and her little fan club here, who need to wake up to the real world and realize that a diplomat shall not be judged by the skeletons he or she has in his or her private closet. Really, all you have against this appointment is petty speculation about details of a diplomat&#039;s personal life and the only reason to sabotage his appointment is his potentially skewed perception of Armenia, an aggressive militarist Russian colony in the South Caucasus that sells arms to Shi&#039;a insurgents in Iraq. Thanks to Wikileaks, there are now hundreds more diplomats and political figures who, as it turns out, deserve more than just a slap on the hand for even more shocking &quot;moral shortcomings&quot; than Mr. or Mrs. Bryza&#039;s. What I would worry about if I were you, Ms. Edmonds, is the fact that in the 21st-century America we still have people who use a family member&#039;s ethnic background as a basis for denying someone a position he or she otherwise fits, because so far neither you, nor your colleagues from those Armenian lobbying organizations from which you copy-and-paste information have managed to prove that the underlying problem you have with Mr. Bryza is that fact that his wife is Turkish, and that is (in your mind full of stereotypes), &quot;Azeri-friendly and Armenian-hating&quot; by default. And what is more troubling, is that there people who claim preaching neutrality and political prudence, and who support such xenophobic allegations. So, yes, John, I must admit that I have enough evidence to doubt Ms. Edmonds&#039; integrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly hope Mr. Bryza gets appointed soon, and not because I&#8217;m not concerned about American true interests, but because it will prove to be a great in-your-face to Sibel Edmonds and her little fan club here, who need to wake up to the real world and realize that a diplomat shall not be judged by the skeletons he or she has in his or her private closet. Really, all you have against this appointment is petty speculation about details of a diplomat&#8217;s personal life and the only reason to sabotage his appointment is his potentially skewed perception of Armenia, an aggressive militarist Russian colony in the South Caucasus that sells arms to Shi&#8217;a insurgents in Iraq. Thanks to Wikileaks, there are now hundreds more diplomats and political figures who, as it turns out, deserve more than just a slap on the hand for even more shocking &#8220;moral shortcomings&#8221; than Mr. or Mrs. Bryza&#8217;s. What I would worry about if I were you, Ms. Edmonds, is the fact that in the 21st-century America we still have people who use a family member&#8217;s ethnic background as a basis for denying someone a position he or she otherwise fits, because so far neither you, nor your colleagues from those Armenian lobbying organizations from which you copy-and-paste information have managed to prove that the underlying problem you have with Mr. Bryza is that fact that his wife is Turkish, and that is (in your mind full of stereotypes), &#8220;Azeri-friendly and Armenian-hating&#8221; by default. And what is more troubling, is that there people who claim preaching neutrality and political prudence, and who support such xenophobic allegations. So, yes, John, I must admit that I have enough evidence to doubt Ms. Edmonds&#8217; integrity.</p>
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		<title>By: Sibel Edmonds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sibel Edmonds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John66: Welcome, and many thanks for your kind feedback. Unfortunately most people don&#039;t realize the significance of this particular case, or view it as some &#039;micro&#039; issue. Part of the blame goes to the mainstream media, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John66: Welcome, and many thanks for your kind feedback. Unfortunately most people don&#8217;t realize the significance of this particular case, or view it as some &#8216;micro&#8217; issue. Part of the blame goes to the mainstream media, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: john66</title>
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		<dc:creator>john66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 20:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks you, Mrs. Edmonds, for exposing the turkish/Azeri/neocaon lobby and the results of the damage it has caused to our country real interests, by trying to force their unjust and criminal views on our country.

This is a clear case of exposing Bryzas’ fishy dealings and their activities. Mr. Bryza under no circumstances should be considered for ambassadorial for Azerbaijan. considering his and his wife’s, past actions, Byezas’ actions and words should sound as a loud alarm, to many, such as you and others try to point out.

Thank you for pointing out Mr./Mrs. Bryza moral shortcomings and conflict of interests as the main US Representative in azerbaijan,

Your perception as always is very timely and relevant. 

escobar&#039;s ludicrous attack on your integrity above, is a sign of his/her desperation and the fear of having the fact aired in an clear and undeniable way. 

your work proves that no matter what ones personal background, one can still rise above the fray and champion the cause of truth, justice and sanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks you, Mrs. Edmonds, for exposing the turkish/Azeri/neocaon lobby and the results of the damage it has caused to our country real interests, by trying to force their unjust and criminal views on our country.</p>
<p>This is a clear case of exposing Bryzas’ fishy dealings and their activities. Mr. Bryza under no circumstances should be considered for ambassadorial for Azerbaijan. considering his and his wife’s, past actions, Byezas’ actions and words should sound as a loud alarm, to many, such as you and others try to point out.</p>
<p>Thank you for pointing out Mr./Mrs. Bryza moral shortcomings and conflict of interests as the main US Representative in azerbaijan,</p>
<p>Your perception as always is very timely and relevant. </p>
<p>escobar&#8217;s ludicrous attack on your integrity above, is a sign of his/her desperation and the fear of having the fact aired in an clear and undeniable way. </p>
<p>your work proves that no matter what ones personal background, one can still rise above the fray and champion the cause of truth, justice and sanity.</p>
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		<title>By: john66</title>
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		<dc:creator>john66</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 20:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks you, Mrs. Edmonds, for exposing the turkish/Azeri/neocaon lobby and the results of the damage it has caused to our country real interests, by trying to force their unjust and criminal views on our country.  

This is a clear case of exposing Bryzas’ fishy dealings and their  activities. Mr. Bryza under no circumstances should be considered for ambassadorial for Azerbaijan. considering his and his wife&#039;s, past actions, Byezas&#039; actions and words should sound as a loud alarm, to many, such as you and others try to point out.

Thank you for pointing out Mr./Mrs. Bryza moral shortcomings and conflict of  interests as the main US Representative in azerbaijan, 

Yoor perception as always is extremely timely and relevant This latter allegation is something I would rather consider a sign of derangement. 

your work proves that no matter waht their personal background, can still rise above and champion the cause of truth, justice ans sanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks you, Mrs. Edmonds, for exposing the turkish/Azeri/neocaon lobby and the results of the damage it has caused to our country real interests, by trying to force their unjust and criminal views on our country.  </p>
<p>This is a clear case of exposing Bryzas’ fishy dealings and their  activities. Mr. Bryza under no circumstances should be considered for ambassadorial for Azerbaijan. considering his and his wife&#8217;s, past actions, Byezas&#8217; actions and words should sound as a loud alarm, to many, such as you and others try to point out.</p>
<p>Thank you for pointing out Mr./Mrs. Bryza moral shortcomings and conflict of  interests as the main US Representative in azerbaijan, </p>
<p>Yoor perception as always is extremely timely and relevant This latter allegation is something I would rather consider a sign of derangement. </p>
<p>your work proves that no matter waht their personal background, can still rise above and champion the cause of truth, justice ans sanity.</p>
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		<title>By: kmwakak8</title>
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		<dc:creator>kmwakak8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neocon larva. That&#039;s a beautiful term. Classic. 
~k</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neocon larva. That&#8217;s a beautiful term. Classic.<br />
~k</p>
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		<title>By: escobar</title>
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		<dc:creator>escobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on you, Sibel Edmonds, for parroting the Armenian lobby in trying to block Bryza&#039;s candidacy for ambassadorship. This nasty case of going through the Bryzas&#039; laundry would not have taken place, I&#039;m sure, had Mr. Bryza been considered as an ambassador for a country other than Azerbaijan, or perhaps, had his wife not been a Turkish-American, which bothers the hell out of your comrades from the ANCA. While you, madam, are trying to point out Mrs. Bryza intellectual shortcomings, it does not bother you at all that Ken Hachikian and his ilk in promoting their cause are going as far as making implicitly racist statements such as &quot;Baran&#039;s Turkish origin may lead Bryza to resort to anti-Armenian bias.&quot; This latter allegation is something I would rather consider a sign of derangement. And you of all people should be opposing allegations put forward against people based on century-old stereotypes of their historical homeland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on you, Sibel Edmonds, for parroting the Armenian lobby in trying to block Bryza&#8217;s candidacy for ambassadorship. This nasty case of going through the Bryzas&#8217; laundry would not have taken place, I&#8217;m sure, had Mr. Bryza been considered as an ambassador for a country other than Azerbaijan, or perhaps, had his wife not been a Turkish-American, which bothers the hell out of your comrades from the ANCA. While you, madam, are trying to point out Mrs. Bryza intellectual shortcomings, it does not bother you at all that Ken Hachikian and his ilk in promoting their cause are going as far as making implicitly racist statements such as &#8220;Baran&#8217;s Turkish origin may lead Bryza to resort to anti-Armenian bias.&#8221; This latter allegation is something I would rather consider a sign of derangement. And you of all people should be opposing allegations put forward against people based on century-old stereotypes of their historical homeland.</p>
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		<title>By: matzoni</title>
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		<dc:creator>matzoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 
I appreciate the plug to my blog and your extensive and subjective profile of Bryza, but I just have to point out that the excerpt of my story you used to support your claim is way out of context. I was attending a big opposition rally and made it clear that a maniac had approached me and called Bryza a faggot. Although at that time there were many people calling on the president to resign (not the case now) This man in now way represents what most Georgians think of Bryza. I also made it clear that he was only repeating what Shalva Natelashvili, the leader of the fringe Labor Party said. You quote Shalva too, which I did for irony, as irony and pitifulness  continue to sum up Georgia&#039;s opposition movement. It&#039;s like quoting Jerry Swaggart on Uzbek foreign policy... I mean only different.

Generally speaking, Georgians are fond of Bryza. They love Bush and Bryza was Bush&#039;s delivery man. 

But, yeah, fun swipe at someone who was called &quot;Skippy&quot; at university. 

(You mentioned Secord. You know about MEGA Oil, no doubt. http://www.armeniandiaspora.com/showthread.php?37514-God-Save-the-Shah)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
I appreciate the plug to my blog and your extensive and subjective profile of Bryza, but I just have to point out that the excerpt of my story you used to support your claim is way out of context. I was attending a big opposition rally and made it clear that a maniac had approached me and called Bryza a faggot. Although at that time there were many people calling on the president to resign (not the case now) This man in now way represents what most Georgians think of Bryza. I also made it clear that he was only repeating what Shalva Natelashvili, the leader of the fringe Labor Party said. You quote Shalva too, which I did for irony, as irony and pitifulness  continue to sum up Georgia&#8217;s opposition movement. It&#8217;s like quoting Jerry Swaggart on Uzbek foreign policy&#8230; I mean only different.</p>
<p>Generally speaking, Georgians are fond of Bryza. They love Bush and Bryza was Bush&#8217;s delivery man. </p>
<p>But, yeah, fun swipe at someone who was called &#8220;Skippy&#8221; at university. </p>
<p>(You mentioned Secord. You know about MEGA Oil, no doubt. <a href="http://www.armeniandiaspora.com/showthread.php?37514-God-Save-the-Shah" rel="nofollow">http://www.armeniandiaspora.com/showthread.php?37514-God-Save-the-Shah</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that is some interesting journalism. Er, if Bryza or his &quot;friends&quot; had mob men after journalists who threatened one of his appointments, won&#039;t this post do the same...Yeah, I seem to remember Israel being involved but also Cheney and McCain also flying in to Georgia as well! Here’s an article about the troops stationed in Georgia as part of the “war on terror” but likely for completely different reasons. Guess what? Sounds like Bryza and his British Government associate protected that part of what seems like the hidden energy agenda—and only might’ve helped along a nuclear war in the process. 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/may/12/nickpatonwalsh.theobserver

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/8/11/up_to_2_000_killed_as

I don’t know these mafia-style Krygistan and Turkish political entities, but I sense a pattern among this “made man” Bryza and Baran, Barry Rubin, and some of these other neocon PNAC signatories. Barry Rubin according to that article does this “echo chamber” thing with that Turkish newspaper Cumhuriyet, the paper citing Rubin as a source and Rubin citing the paper and so it spreads with nothing behind it. Well, it seems to me the same thing going on with this “Iran is seeking Nuclear Weapons” din that pretty much all of the congressional chamber backed even though the Congressional Research Service and the 2007 NIE said they don’t have such a program anymore. Sounds like “Curveball” type stuff, and Dick Cheney’s office pressuring intelligence to go a certain way and rely on faulty sources for the 2003 Iraq invasion (seemingly too easy) manipulation. Or also like what Team B was seemingly doing way back when.  And they also seem to do these suspicious &quot;predictions&quot; err &quot;geostrategic vision&quot; like with that Newsweek piece and PNAC and that &quot;Catastrophic Terrorism&quot; policy paper. That article about the Ulusalcis in Turkey and their direct connections to neocon think tanks and Dick Cheney’s office was pretty amazing. And that “mob wedding” was just a microcosm of so many aspects of what comes up here it seems—this and your “pattern” in that last article about Bakiyev resembles a legitimized criminal cartel that maybe we all are a part of through our ignorance, accustomed lifestyles and energy demands?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that is some interesting journalism. Er, if Bryza or his &#8220;friends&#8221; had mob men after journalists who threatened one of his appointments, won&#8217;t this post do the same&#8230;Yeah, I seem to remember Israel being involved but also Cheney and McCain also flying in to Georgia as well! Here’s an article about the troops stationed in Georgia as part of the “war on terror” but likely for completely different reasons. Guess what? Sounds like Bryza and his British Government associate protected that part of what seems like the hidden energy agenda—and only might’ve helped along a nuclear war in the process. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/may/12/nickpatonwalsh.theobserver" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/may/12/nickpatonwalsh.theobserver</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2008/8/11/up_to_2_000_killed_as" rel="nofollow">http://www.democracynow.org/2008/8/11/up_to_2_000_killed_as</a></p>
<p>I don’t know these mafia-style Krygistan and Turkish political entities, but I sense a pattern among this “made man” Bryza and Baran, Barry Rubin, and some of these other neocon PNAC signatories. Barry Rubin according to that article does this “echo chamber” thing with that Turkish newspaper Cumhuriyet, the paper citing Rubin as a source and Rubin citing the paper and so it spreads with nothing behind it. Well, it seems to me the same thing going on with this “Iran is seeking Nuclear Weapons” din that pretty much all of the congressional chamber backed even though the Congressional Research Service and the 2007 NIE said they don’t have such a program anymore. Sounds like “Curveball” type stuff, and Dick Cheney’s office pressuring intelligence to go a certain way and rely on faulty sources for the 2003 Iraq invasion (seemingly too easy) manipulation. Or also like what Team B was seemingly doing way back when.  And they also seem to do these suspicious &#8220;predictions&#8221; err &#8220;geostrategic vision&#8221; like with that Newsweek piece and PNAC and that &#8220;Catastrophic Terrorism&#8221; policy paper. That article about the Ulusalcis in Turkey and their direct connections to neocon think tanks and Dick Cheney’s office was pretty amazing. And that “mob wedding” was just a microcosm of so many aspects of what comes up here it seems—this and your “pattern” in that last article about Bakiyev resembles a legitimized criminal cartel that maybe we all are a part of through our ignorance, accustomed lifestyles and energy demands?</p>
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		<title>By: camusrebel</title>
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		<dc:creator>camusrebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>6 mil can buy a lot of blow.   From earlier readings I remember seeing that Israel was all over Georgia like a rash.   Training troops, spooks,selling lots of fancy killing toys.  The whole &quot;lets fuck with Russia&quot; gambit had Mossad&#039;s bloody paw prints all over it.

So I was waiting to see where Daniel Pipes etc. fit in.  Guess I must wait for the next installment.

Neo-con may be the best adjective for Obama after all is said and done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>6 mil can buy a lot of blow.   From earlier readings I remember seeing that Israel was all over Georgia like a rash.   Training troops, spooks,selling lots of fancy killing toys.  The whole &#8220;lets fuck with Russia&#8221; gambit had Mossad&#8217;s bloody paw prints all over it.</p>
<p>So I was waiting to see where Daniel Pipes etc. fit in.  Guess I must wait for the next installment.</p>
<p>Neo-con may be the best adjective for Obama after all is said and done.</p>
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