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UK-US Media Reports… Only When it’s Safe to Publish?

mediaYesterday this made the headlines in UK:

Britain Held Secret War Talks With US Generals 11 Months Before Iraq Invasion

America’s most senior general flew into Britain for top secret talks on the invasion of Iraq 11 months before the attack on Saddam Hussein’s regime.

Details of the classified meeting, held at RAF Brize Norton, Oxfordshire, suggest Tony Blair’s Government was involved in detailed discussions about toppling the Iraqi dictator earlier than previously disclosed.American General Tommy Franks flew in to the base in April 2002 to attend a summit meeting called by the then Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon.

No kidding? And not bothering to cite previous reports on this, hmmmmm, more than a year ago?
 

This is what I’m referring to:

Who’s Afraid of Sibel Edmonds?
The American Conservative, November 2009

AmConsThe monitoring of the Turks picked up contacts with Feith, Wolfowitz, and Perle in the summer of 2001, four months before 9/11. They were discussing with the Turkish ambassador in Washington an arrangement whereby the U.S. would invade Iraq and divide the country. The UK would take the south, the rest would go to the U.S. They were negotiating what Turkey required in exchange for allowing an attack from Turkish soil. The Turks were very supportive, but wanted a three-part division of Iraq to include their own occupation of the Kurdish region. The three Defense Department officials said that would be more than they could agree to, but they continued daily communications to the ambassador and his defense attaché in an attempt to convince them to help.

Meanwhile Scowcroft, who was also the chairman of the American Turkish Council, Baker, Richard Armitage, and Grossman began negotiating separately for a possible Turkish protectorate. Nothing was decided, and then 9/11 took place.

Scowcroft was all for invading Iraq in 2001 and even wrote a paper for the Pentagon explaining why the Turkish northern front would be essential. I know Scowcroft came off as a hero to some for saying he was against the war, but he was very much for it until his client’s conditions were not met by the Bush administration.

So, what’s the deal? Report only when all is considered safe and sound; sanctioned and blessed by the high & mighty above? Or is it pure ignorance and lack of research in this age and time, and despite their research and search engines? Or maybe it is their superiority complex act surfacing as an inferiority complex when a smaller publication beats them to a story?
 

You tell me. What’s the deal?

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  1. I think that the UK and USA didn’t plan on Turkey wanting a third of Iraq, and weren’t about to let Turkey in on the splitting of Iraq. And that I believe is what led to 9/11 and why I believe it was an inside job. Without the supposed attack on 9/11, I don’t believe there would’ve been a way to invade Iraq without really pissing off Turkey. It really plays in to the whole way that Bush\Cheney did business. If they didn’t get others to comply, they just figured out ways to get things done.

    But to answer your question, it sure seems apparent that it was an inferiority complex at play.

  2. Good question Sibel. Why does the UK media cover some things the US MSM won’t touch with a ten-foot pole yet at the same time ignore other explosive stories that are corroborated by their own reporting? The getting-scooped-by-smaller-publications theory may explain some of it, but I don’t think that’s the whole story. The UK media evidently has its “gate-keeping” limits like the US MSM does–in general it just seems that there is a higher tolerance threshold before they come into effect.

  3. Speaking of little-covered stories in the MSM, I thought this latest addition to the ongoing Able Danger saga was interesting: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/04/exclusive-witnesses-defense-department-report-suggest-cover-findings/#content

    Thoughts? I seem to remember Sibel saying she knew Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer.

  4. How telling this story of the discussions to carve up Iraq is. We all remember how Turkey came out against the use of its land to invade Iraq during the run up to the war.

    Of course the military was the attack dogs for whomever want to carve up Iraq and who might that be? One can argue that the military makes up its own missions by use of intel even creating the justification for the use of force by staging false flags. This is like cops going into a neighborhood under cover and dispensing lots of drugs and then coming in to clean up all the crime it creates in its wake. That goes on so on the international level the MIC might be up to the same tricks.

    But the corporations who extract and exploit need access to product and labor and so they need the MIC to get rid of the government and army of the target nation. How this works is a bit less clear. But that energy conference Cheney held in the WH which was secret may be the face of such a planning effort.

    It’s hard to know which monster drove the Iraq war – the oil guys, the military creeps, or even the Israeli lobby who wanted Sadam off their backs. But when you have such consensus – it’s not hard to proceed with whatever excuses need to be created as the casus belli.

    And so the outrageous lies for justification came fast ans furious, from 9/11 and Sadam’s involvement, to his harboring of WMDs, to his use of gas in Halabjah, to his abuse of the Kurds, his attack of Kuwait, to his Hitler like behavior, his rigged elections, and on and on.

    This is how US foreign policy works. We take what belongs to others and it is a profitable exercise for all involved!

  5. avatar Kingfisher says:

    “Speaking of little-covered stories in the MSM, I thought this latest addition to the ongoing Able Danger saga was interesting: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/04/exclusive-witnesses-defense-department-report-suggest-cover-findings/#content

    Thoughts? I seem to remember Sibel saying she knew Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer.”

    The IG report was a whitewash and LTC Shaffer got railroaded. You could tell too because at the time the report was coming out LTC Shaffer got a really big promotion: http://www.haftofthespear.com/?p=159
    I remember reading the IG report and thinking it was BS.

    Funny, you don’t hear people talk much about ABLE DANGER, even among the the “truthers”. Probably because the data-mining stuff they were doing would give civil libertarians heartburn, and would have enabled the kill chain so JSOC could schwack some al Qaeda MF’ers.

    Acknowledging such would of course imply that not all spooks and covert operations are evil and are designed to oppress us, and in fact some protect us – which is of course anathema to the Truthers.

    KF

  6. avatar Kingfisher says:

    “So, what’s the deal? Report only when all is considered safe and sound; sanctioned and blessed by the high & mighty above? Or is it pure ignorance and lack of research in this age and time, and despite their research and search engines? Or maybe it is their superiority complex act surfacing as an inferiority complex when a smaller publication beats them to a story?

    You tell me. What’s the deal?”

    @Sibel,

    IMO, it is the difference between the conceptual and the concrete. Your story deals in the conceptual with diplomats, oilmen, lobbyists and think-tankers discussing concepts-ideas-potentials-possibilities, while the Daily Mail story covers deals in the concrete.

    The Daily Mail story involves the head of Central Command (Gen. Franks) and the UK Defence Secretary meeting to discuss Iraq war plans. This is where the rubber would meet the road, it didn’t deal with the conceptual – Gen. Franks was no great brain (literally).

    The Mail story is much easier to tell. Your story is too hard to understand, and has more questions than answers.

    KF

  7. For those new to this site, Sibel interviewed Peter Lance who clearly identified the problem with Able Danger.

  8. Foreknowledge/cover-up. Daniel Hospsicker. “Welcome To Terrorland”, Mohamed ATTA and the 9-11 Cover-up in Florida.

  9. Concise report by a friend: As you know I wrote an article about a coverup of some of the events that happened on 9/11. I think I just touched the tip of the iceberg. Seems to me the entire military/NSA/DIA/CIA intelligence apparatus, and many top level people in the defense contracting establishment are involved. They are not just covering their asses. They are covering up any evidence that might reveal what they were doing then and continue to do now… but on a much greater scale. We’re talking about illegal data-mining, wire-taps, surveillence, and violation of all sorts of laws designed to protect constitutional rights, especially privacy. Israel is in this up to their necks, and one big reason we are so footsy-wootsy with them in spite of Gaza and the settlements on the West Bank is that they have the best software in the world for many of these functions, and consequently have us over a barrel because we depend on them.

  10. Hello Sibel! Here is what I think the deal is. The Lame Stream Media(Which is soooooooooooooooooooo last century) has become nothing but a propaganda arm for the state. PERIOD
    That is what I believe is the deal here. The Lame Stream Media will not report on such hot fire issues, because if they do, they will lose access to those who are in power so that they can still have that access to throw softball questions to them.
    It is the growth of this blog, along with others who, IMHO, are breaking up the Lame Stream Media, where newspaper readership along with TV viewership is continuing on the downslide. In all of this mess, this to me is the shining light at the end of the propaganda tunnell. Great work Sibel, ALWAYS!!!

  11. I’d say its a little from column A, and a little from column B. The way I see it, its like institutionalized ignorance. The investigative powers of the media seem to be on sale to the highest bidder! Unfortunately, those bids usually are to keep the truth hidden instead of revealing it.

    I think a great current example of this is to see how different countries are covering revelations about Kagame in Rwanda. Here in North America, nothing. In Europe, the press seems much more inclined to the possibility that Kagame may not be the big hero we were told he is.

  12. Ref:above.zerohedge: In Jonathan Beaty and S.C. Gwynne’s ground-breaking book on BCCI, entitled “The Outlaw Bank,” they detailed the overwhelming evidence proving the dominant role US intelligence, governmental agencies and global banking interests played in BCCI operations and in covering up the bank’s scandalous and illegal activities. As they reported:

    “Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the BCCI affair in the United States was the failure of U.S. government and federal law enforcement to move against the outlaw bank. Instead of swift retribution, what took place over more than a decade was a cover-up of major, alarming proportions, often orchestrated from the very highest levels of government.

    Call 9 1 1 .

  13. Bassem Youssef was in the Washington Post. Who is he?

  14. @Simon: FBI whistleblower & Linguist. Discrimination Case.
    @Remo: BCCI is another one of those cover ups with quasi investigations. I see Roger Tamraz is a big player again;-)
    @Hatchcar:Lame Stream Media-I like that!
    @KF: A good point. Also, the ‘vetted’ story doesn’t have to be worded in ‘certain’ ways. The discussions that summer were ‘post decision making’-during logistics and planning stage.

    More later…I have a new post on Central Asia…Coming up shortly.

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