Podcast Show #39

The Boiling Frogs Presents Dr. Tom Woods

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Tom Woods joins us to discuss his latest article on the Phony Arguments for Presidential War Powers which has triggered intriguing reactions from the media on both sides of the isle. He provides us with historical background and a ‘real’ constitutional view of war making powers vested in US presidents, and tells us why the mainstream, left and right, usually proclaims the congressional power to declare war  “obsolete.” Dr. Woods defines ‘State Nullification,’ provides us with examples and an historical context for this power vested in the states, and counters uninformed arguments and generalizations spread by the mainstream on this topic. He talks about the Federal Reserve and the disastrous government bailout, the polarized and sound-bite oriented media, the labeling of critics of the status quo,  the case of the states and medical marijuana, the man most responsible for the beginning of the  imperial presidency in the US, and more!


Tom WoodsThomas E. Woods, Jr., is a senior fellow of the Ludwig von Mises Institute. He holds a bachelor’s degree in history from Harvard and his master’s, and Ph.D. from Columbia University. He is the author of eleven books, most recently Rollback: Repealing Big Government Before the Coming Fiscal Collapse and Nullification: How to Resist Federal Tyranny in the 21st Century. His other books include The New York Times bestsellers Meltdown: A Free-Market Look at Why the Stock Market Collapsed, the Economy Tanked, and Government Bailouts Will Make Things Worse and The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History, as well as Who Killed the Constitution? The Fate of American Liberty from World War I to George W. Bush (with Kevin R.C. Gutzman). Dr. Woods’ writing has appeared in dozens of popular and scholarly periodicals, including the American Historical Review, the Christian Science Monitor, Investor’s Business Daily, Modern Age, American Studies, New Oxford Review, Catholic World Report, and Journal of Libertarian Studies. He is presently a contributing editor of The American Conservative magazine, and a contributor to six encyclopedias. He publishes regularly at his website http://tomwoods.com.

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  1. Sibel,

    Great interview.
    Concerning your question on how to use nullification on the TSA, I think the examples he gave imply that some states or cities have to start and that gets the momentum going. When the federal government will object (notice I said “when” not “if”) then it will show to everyone the abusive overreach of the government and it’s stance that dissent is not an option.

    The essence of nullifying TSA illegal searches and abuse is I think that states reassert that those TSA procedures are illegal and TSA agents committing them will be prosecuted. That essentially is a start cause it reasserts that the state law in that matter trumps the federal law (though the TSA has no force of law and I don’t think the Dept. of Homeland Scammers …I mean the Dept. of Homeland Security has no legal basis either.)

    I think the state of New jersey and one or two other states have either passed or are in the process of debating such laws.

  2. I should have added that I think the TSA laws are unconstitutional and as Dr. Woods states in his book that unconstitutional laws have no force of law and states have a duty to nullify them.

  3. @Konst: All good points. Another good point he (Woods) makes: Nullification is the last resort…if we get 10-15+ states together, just the threat of it (and of course the power/rights granted to them by the constitution)is enough to have the feds back off. His good example on that was the Federal ID proposal, and how they had to take it off the table due to the resist. by the states.
    As you know, it is far easier (doable) to line up state rep.s support than DC house-senate. So this solution (possible venue of action) makes so much sense for us the activists to channel our efforts…

  4. ZicaTanka says:
  5. Hi Sibel! Hoping your daughter is getting better as each day passes. I’m sorta of surprised that there isn’t that many comments here since this is hot button issue. However, it’s always nice to hear that when people are critical of this idea, and seem to place the racist tag on the proponets of nullification, I love when Dr. Woods uses the fact that the Fugitive Slave Act was abolished due to the fact that the state of Wisconsin nullified it, and juries failed to convict those who were accused of violating it.
    Also, nullication will be used on the issue of medical pot, and here in my state of Maine, a GOP representative has a bill that would nullify the current status of National Guard troops and bring them back to state control, not Federal control.

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