Podcast Show #56

The Boiling Frogs Presents Paul Thompson-Part III

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This is Part 3 of our three-part one-of-a-kind interview series with author and researcher Paul Thompson. For additional background information please visit the complete 9/11 Timeline Investigative Project at HistoryCommons.Org.

Paul Thompson joins us to discuss one of the most blacked-out and censored aspects of Al-Qaeda-CIA connections: The partnership and alliance between the CIA and Al Qaeda and their joint operations in Central Asia, Balkans and Caucasus throughout the 1990’s. Mr. Thompson talks about Al-Qaeda’s Balkans operations, running training camps, money-laundering, and drug running networks in the region, Ayman Al-Zawahiri and his residence in Bulgaria in order to help manage the Al Qaeda effort in nearby Bosnia, the Al Qaeda cells in Chechnya and Azerbaijan, BCCI and more!

ptPaul Thompson is the author of the Terror Timeline, a compilation of over 5,000 reports and articles concerning the September 11, 2001 attacks. His research in the field has garnered over 100 radio and TV interviews. Mr. Thompson holds a psychology degree from Stanford University obtained in 1990. For the complete 9/11 Timeline Investigative Project visit HistoryCommons.Org


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  1. The turn around of the US’s privateers in 1990-1 came from a couple obvious huge events not mentioned here. 1 the collapse of the USSR 2 US invasion of Iraq where upon they built bases in Saudi Arabia which really angered UBL.
    MEK became the new medium of finance to “al Qaeda” after BCCI fell out. It was BCCI that was used in Iran Contra as well. Notice how MEK was ignored with the second invasion of Iraq.
    As for Azerbaijan Paul’s right about the oil, you have the Baku-Tbilis-Ceyhan, Baku-Supsa, and Baku-Novorossisk pipelines, all of which start in Baku and the head man for tha is Russian Oligarch Alekperov of Lukoil who was born in Baku. The BTC almost went through Armenia not Georgia but the dispute in Nagorno Karabakh made the decision easy. But Heydar Aliyev (former KGB and mob affiliate) Azerbaijan was back in power in 1993 becoming the president and the issue of contention there that assisted his return was the NK conflict with Armenia. Aliyev friendly with Vagit Alekperov who was then deputy minister of Soviet oil and started Langepas-Uray-Kogalymneft which out maneuvered the Western oil giants and took the Azer’s ACG field. Obviously the Russians didn’t want the BTC line to break their monopoly, and the timely incident that forced it through Georgia and then to Turkey a NATO member wasn’t favorable either. LUKoil shocked everyone when they later sold ACG to the Japanese, but that’s another can of worms (personally I think it was to grab the quick cash to Slavneft and get rid of a head ache and piss off the Western powers by locking it in with Japan who will never ever ever let go of oil and are about as flexible as a cast-iron ball.) Anyway its in 2004 months after H. Aliyev is in power that the US uses Blackwater to have a presence in Baku, this was their first major contract. Azerbaijan had made a law banning foreign troops and the US circumvented that by simply categorizing them differently yet as it is clear now, Blackwater was and still is a group of hired mercenaries. There is a big back and forth here between the oil powers. And it moves over into Afghanistan with the Pakistanis NOT happy with the lines going to India, its a story I call Cheney and his pipelines and understanding this mess lets one step back and look at the modern privateers, the convoluted financing and the overlapping interests for each party. However Paul Thompson I must disagree with, although the ISI clearly was involved with Atta that’s a distancing factor, (plausible dependability same as Iranian middle men in the Contra affair and Marc Rich Scandals) The bottom of this slime pile is the US itself and their cohorts in crime which went on to falsely connect 911 to Iraq and anthrax etc and this is the shiny elephant in the room and that is ISRAEL. They didn’t just wire money to Atta they were living next door to him. And if you’d please please see my film you’d see the XTC trade and spying on the DEA was just part of a off the book financing for the larger operation to provocateur and protect “al qaeda” criminals (like the FBI did domestic terror groups in OKC) already on the US payroll who were also left off the hook after the USS Cole to act as patsies for 911 which was actually more an airforce operation run by the COG with Dick Cheney right at the top of it. The left hand didn’t know what the right was doing. It was a joint operation and it went badly, the ridiculous version they have now is a panic cover up for what was supposed to have happen. And that is why it all looks so stupid blowing up the buildings the way they did. Now they have the heroine money and thus all the secret prisons and who knows what crazy event they’d like to blame on Iran.

  2. Fantastic… fantastic… fantastic. This, to me, has always been what should have been the focus of 9/11 activists. It completely obliterates the narrative of the “War Of Terror.” It raises the question, “if the United States supported the Mujahadeen/Al-Qaeda (as recently as in Libya with the “flickers” http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8407047/Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj7EZagCAb8), did the United States support those that participated in the 9/11 attacks?” A fundamental question that needs to be answered.

    Thank you Sibel for this amazing series with Paul. It is truly historical.

  3. Great show. Thanks. This one was much more consistent in its analysis that the previous interview. But I have a number of questions for Paul Thompson.

    What justifies your default assumption that the US-Intelligence activities serve US-interests? This interview shows, as so many on the boiling Frogs, that US intelligence agencies act quite ambivalently: in part supporting international terrorism and in part fighting it. Isn’t this perfectly consistent with the fact that any military-industrial complex needs enemies to justify its existence?

    Can pretty much all of the dynamics and the interrelations you (and many others) describe be explained as an effort by the top of the world’s wealth hierarchy to create enemies to produce perpetual war and to maintain an active fighting force to secure natural resources and in doing so perpetuate profits and concentrate wealth? This would make wealthy well-connected families, such as the Bushes and the Bin Ladens, the natural allies that they appear to be. Since generations British Foreign intelligence is under the control of the aristocracy, Dulles was of course an exponent of the US-elite families, and George Bush might have been CIA all of his life.

    My final question: what holds you back in at least considering this interpretive framework? We know from Italy that parallel governments with quite different ultimate beneficiaries exist and can be stable for many years. So why not in the US?

  4. I totally agreewith Jon’s comment. Thanks, BFP, for presenting this. You are doing such important work. We can’t get enough.

  5. Sorry for not responding to comments here lately. It’s been crazy hectic with configuring the site, and adding new functions…subscription drive, our podcast/video program plannings…BUT I’ve been reading your comments daily.

    Xicha: thank you so much for your regular feed back…

    Jon: You are the one who came up with the idea and arranged this great interview series with Thompson. Oh, you introduced us to Kevin Fenton. And been doing so much more…I consider you a friend, and a BFP partner. You know that, right?

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