Podcast Show #66

The Boiling Frogs Presents Andrew Gavin Marshall

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This is part I of our interview series on the New World Order.

Andrew Gavin Marshall joins us to discuss the central role of the Rockefeller, Carnegie, and Ford Foundations in the construction of knowledge and the transformation of America from an ‘isolationist’ society to a ‘globalist’ society, and the concerted and strategic effort by these institutions in seeking to engineer and manage the social sciences to fit within the framework of an emerging American Empire. He warns about the slight and subtle process through which a potentially powerful movement such as Occupy Wall Street may be co-opted and controlled, and shares with us his 12-Point proposal for the Occupy Movement to ‘be the change.’ Mr. Marshall provides us with his view and definition of the New World Order, the role of institutions, including the NGOs, the importance of true independence in counter-movement and protests and more!

MarshallAndrew Gavin Marshall is an independent researcher and writer, covering a broad range of issues – economic, political, social, cultural, and historical – in an effort to bring a critical perspective to world events. He has authored dozens of articles, essays, and reports online and for various magazines and other publications, and is regularly interviewed by radio and television programs on a number of different issues. He recently co-edited a book with Professor Michel Chossudovsky entitled, “The Global Economic Crisis: The Great Depression of the XXI Century,” a collection of essays by a number of authors and researchers presenting a more critical and nuanced examination of the economic crisis that began in 2008. You can visit Mr. Marshall’s website here.


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  1. This was one of the best. He spoke for me, with regards to human nature as the focus.

  2. @Xicha: I feel the same way. Have you checked Andrew’s website? Excellent articles/material there. I could have gone for another two hours with this interview. He is articulate and into macro/real issues/causes. I am looking forward to his book…

  3. Thanks so much for posting this interview! I agree – 2 more hours would have been fine. I hope his clear thinking gets a wide audience.

  4. Another thing I’d like to specifically point out about Mr. Marshall’s comments is his positive tone when it comes to human potential.

    I’m also looking forward to the book. If his writing is as coherent as his speaking, I’m sure it will be good.

  5. Did check out his website and plan to donate to the People’s Book Project there soon. He needs money for food/rent so he can write the book independently.

  6. Very good. Funny that I happen to be listening to a lecture series on the fall of the Roman Empire, yet aware of similar dynamics taking place in the US, but the level of denial is so very deep. Very interesting parallels.
    I like his website as well.

  7. While I am interested to hear more from Mr. Marshall, Sibel Edmonds is the more important voice in this podcast. By now people are probably tired of me pointing out that Sibel is one of very few media voices who not only understands what is going on but is willing to say it out loud. While I am very grateful to Peter B. Collins for making it possible for Sibel to produce these podcasts and I fervently hope he will continue to do so, he still does not understand the matrix.

    For me, the last 10 minutes of this podcast are the most important. Mr. Marshall’s response to Peter Collins’ assertion that the Occupy movement must align with the Democrats in order to effect change was excellent. How is it that Peter still thinks the Democrat Party can and will bring about the reforms Peter so ardently desires? How is it than any informed American thinks either of the two dominant parties will do anything but continue what they have been doing for 150 years or more? What Peter doesn’t seem to understand is that government is nothing more than a tool for the empowered elite to maintain and expand their power. So the Democrat Party maintains its status as one of two major parties by doing what it is told/paid to do, which is to serve the empowered elite. It’s no different than the point Peter makes about media and NGO’s becoming tools of the same empowered elite (EE). The same dynamic is at work with the Democrat and Republican parties. Why are there only two major parties? Because the EE, the GOP, the Dems, and the media all work together to keep it that way. Why do they do that? To suppress real change and the truth about the matrix. As long as they keep the public focused (obsessed) with the theatre of Democrats vs. Republicans, the public will never learn the truth because the whole show is a charade. It designed to make Peter Collins and others think they have a choice. But it’s an illusion because both parties represent the same EE who fund their campaigns and provide them with lucrative jobs when hey leave office. The EE control both parties and control the debate just the same way they Peter claims they control the “alternative media” and NGO’s.

    At present, the only existing political party that offers any possibility of real change is the Libertarian. But I suspect it could be hijacked just like any other party if it actually became a political force. Peter Collins or anyone else who thinks government is the pathway to change needs to provide an example. We have centuries of evidence to the contrary. No matter the original intent or nature of a government at its beginning, history tells it it will be corrupted. Honestly, if we are going to assume that the people in government are benevolent servants of the public interest, then it really doesn’t matter whether we have a democratic, socialist, Marxist, fascist or other form of government. Any of them could work if the people in them were genuinely there to serve the people.

    So what do we do? We live with as little government as we can and we keep it decentralized. Likewise, we do not allow any single institution to control the supply of money. If we are to effect meaningful change in the USA without a violent revolution, the first thing that must happen is the 50 States must reassert their Constitutional powers. Washington D.C. must be stripped of all the powers they have usurped from the States. The people of the USA have a real opportunity in 2012 to take a first step, the biggest of which would be to elect Ron Paul as President. The problem is Ron Paul would likely be a dead man walking if he were to become the front runner in the Republican primary race.

  8. While I am interested to hear more from Mr. Marshall, Sibel Edmonds is the more important voice in this podcast. By now people are probably tired of me pointing out that Sibel is one of very few media voices who not only understands what is going on but is willing to say it out loud. While I am very grateful to Peter B. Collins for making it possible for Sibel to produce these podcasts and I fervently hope he will continue to do so, he still does not understand the matrix.

    For me, the last 10 minutes of this podcast are the most important. Mr. Marshall’s response to Peter Collins’ assertion that the Occupy movement must align with the Democrats in order to effect change was excellent. How is it that Peter still thinks the Democrat Party can and will bring about the reforms Peter so ardently desires? How is it that any informed American thinks either of the two dominant parties will do anything but continue what they have been doing for 150 years or more? What Peter doesn’t seem to understand is that government is nothing more than a tool for the empowered elite to maintain and expand their power. So the Democrat Party maintains its status as one of two major parties by doing what it is told/paid to do, which is to serve the empowered elite. It’s no different than the point Peter makes about media and NGO’s becoming tools of the same empowered elite (EE). The same dynamic is at work with the Democrat and Republican parties. Why are there only two major parties? Because the EE, the GOP, the Dems, and the media all work together to keep it that way. Why do they do that? To suppress real change and the truth about the matrix. As long as they keep the public focused (obsessed) with the theatre of Democrats vs. Republicans, the public will never learn the truth because the whole show is a charade. It designed to make Peter Collins and others think they have a choice. But it’s an illusion because both parties represent the same EE who fund their campaigns and provide them with lucrative jobs when hey leave office. The EE control both parties and control the debate just the same way Peter claims they control the “alternative media” and NGO’s.

    At present, the only existing political party that offers any possibility of real change is the Libertarian. But I suspect it could be hijacked just like any other party if it actually became a political force. Peter Collins or anyone else who thinks government is the pathway to change needs to provide an example. We have centuries of evidence to the contrary. No matter the original intent or nature of a government at its beginning, history tells it it will be corrupted. Honestly, if we are going to assume that the people in government are benevolent servants of the public interest, then it really doesn’t matter whether we have a democratic, socialist, Marxist, fascist or other form of government. Any of them could work if the people in them were genuinely there to serve the people.

    So what do we do? We live with as little government as we can and we keep it decentralized. Likewise, we do not allow any single institution to control the supply of money. If we are to effect meaningful change in the USA without a violent revolution, the first thing that must happen is the 50 States must reassert their Constitutional powers. Washington D.C. must be stripped of all the powers they have usurped from the States. The people of the USA have a real opportunity in 2012 to take a first step, the biggest of which would be to elect Ron Paul as President. The problem is Ron Paul would likely be a dead man walking if he were to become the front runner in the Republican primary race.

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