Podcast Show #32

The Boiling Frogs Presents Tom Engelhardt

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Tom Engelhardt discusses his latest book, The American Way of War: How Bush’s Wars Became Obama’s, Washington’s ongoing commitment to military bases to extend its empire, and the US empire’s deep historical roots that precede the former administration and strongly continue today into the Presidency of Obama. He talks about Central Asia & the goal to dominate the future’s main energy sources in this region, and expands upon an interesting title for one the chapters in the book- “garrisoning of the planet.”

engelhardt Tom Engelhardt is a founder of Tomdispatch.com website, a project of The Nation Institute where he is a Fellow. He is the author of The American Way of War, The End of Victory Culture, and of a novel, The Last Days of Publishing, as well as a collection of his Tomdispatch interviews, Mission Unaccomplished. Before that he worked as an editor at Pacific News Service in the early 1970s, and, these last three decades, as an editor in book publishing. For 15 years, he was Senior Editor at Pantheon Books where he edited and published award-winning works ranging from Art Spiegelman's Maus and John Dower's War Without Mercy to Eduardo Galeano's Memory of Fire trilogy. He is now Consulting Editor at Metropolitan Books, as well as co-founder and co-editor of Metropolitan's The American Empire Project.

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  1. Uppity Upstart

    Move into the zone. It is a quiet place from which power flows. Illusions are dispelled and words have power. The tentacles of hydra morph into Central Asia, while rot is within. Jerusalem must fall. It is the Babylon of western Mon. Let it go. I walk in the swamp; heat is almost too much. Age pursues its relentless course. Beyond where complacent sportsmen go, but too civilized for the swamp rat, I stand beside a concrete weir, and read Chaim Potok’s ‘Wanderings’. Looking up, I see looking at me with frank curiosity – a gator. Not the sleepy-eyed, bored look of a predator waiting for an incautious step. More the look of equal respect from an ancient enemy. Turning back toward civilization, the heat has increased, but my pace is steady. A stirring to the side causes me to pause. I look, watching riffles in the swamp grass. Then framed and looking directly toward me, a four point buck. Again the innocence of respect. Now large lubbers, a flightless grasshopper, appear spaced along the road. Each is a $2 reward for the scientist I will send them to. All in all, $26. They do not run, but hunker down when approached. Their weapon is biochemical warfare. My last encounter is one feared by most. I see a black feral sow, her husband the fearless swamp boar. They feed alongside the road, but do not see me approach. Wild animals near people respond the same way as people. They do not really see with their eyes, but depend upon disturbances in the ether, the incessant ramble of aimless thought. My mind is still within the zone, and I project nothing. Abreast, the sow sees me and snorts. I snort back as she hastens to join her family.
    Now take this moment and apply it to some illusion. For me it was the jester who claimed that pallets of oil booms were being stacked for some future oil spill. Then claiming it was his clan of global meditators that had turned Hurricane Earl. I knew from an earlier visit to the coast, that this was simply the staging area for booms being returned from use in the Gulf. I knew from the nature of HAARP that it had fired up just prior to the turning of the Hurricane. Yes, we have a weather weapon that is a force multiplier, but let the jester think what he will. I know the truth.

  2. Simon, does your keyboard screw any text box with a submit button?

  3. @ZicaTanka Normally, you are a nice fellow, so I guess your satirical comment means you did not understand my description. I was trying to define a principle that can be used to discern the truth of many statements. I consider any study of Central Asian politics a possible distraction to problems closer to home, such as the unresolved issue of 9-11.

  4. Sorry for the swipe, Simon. I didn’t understand what you were trying to say and by the time I got to HAARP, I was frustrated. I thought, now this is distracting.

  5. It would be more accurate to state that the United States is inducing corrupt acts from the very people it seeks to prosecute for corruption.


  6. ZicaTanka is a fellow?

    Sorry ZicaTanka, I always thought you to be a female.

  7. It’s my voice, isn’t it? So… How about those Bears?

  8. Why must Boiling Frogs Podcast become yet another bastion of boring old progressives, with the likes of Ray McGovern and Tom Engelhardt?

    Mr. McGovern left the agency a long time ago and sounds more like the activist types he took up with than someone with a pulse on world affairs and security/intel issues; and Mr. Engelhardt is a prolific author and the proprietor of a high traffic website, with plenty of exposure already.

    Why are forces perpetually trying to bend BF to be like something that already exists?
    ie: “If BF doesn’t focus on 9/11 inside job like hundreds of other Truther websites it is bs and is against the truth, and working for Dick Cheney and his man-servant Obama…heavy breathing…”

  9. like many others with high hopes and admiration for ms. edmonds’ courage, i am becoming disillusioned with her apparent lack of looking into the truth of 911. are people like chomsky, goodman, and entities like the nation afraid, as peter dale scott states obama must be, of the cia? or what? what is your opinion, sibel, of pds? of richard gage of architects and engineers for 911 truth. of fellow whistleblowers like kevin ryan who’s doing good research that sibel perhaps doesn;t have time for.?

    by so blithely dismissing this “movement” of great minds and wonderful, selfless people of conscience (yes, and admittedly, also, more than a few disinformationists and freaks) you naysayers lose my respect.

    ok. some of you say go to the many “truther” sites for this kind of discussion, but it’s all related and the solution needs good open minds from all walks.
    i would like to see sibel track down indira singh who read ms. edmonds statement at the ’04 citizens’ commission. i can;t find anything on her. she, being a first responder as well as expert on ptech was not well then and i wonder of her state now. is she even alive? if you;ve never heard of her, google the hearings along with her name and get back to \me. thanks. lb

  10. anything recent on her, that is.lb

  11. @newcomers Kingfisher is a corporate shill that Sibel allows to continue at this site. Most of us just ignore him, even if he thinks he is CIA.

    A march and conference in Lower Manhattan that will feature supporters of terrorism and 9/11 conspiracy theorists. Organized by the group “We Are Change,” the march will proceed to Ground Zero. Among the speakers at the subsequent conference are: former US Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, who has described the U.S. government as being under the control of “Zionist agents;” former British parliamentarian George Galloway, who is an outspoken supporter of the Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist organizations; and Wayne Madsen, a conspiracy theorist who claims that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by the Israeli intelligence agency, Mossad

  12. Goofy conclusions, Simon, about KF and Galloway. And I’m not sure what you’re point is. Maybe you could explain it better with more references to animals and HAARP.

  13. “@newcomers Kingfisher is a corporate shill that Sibel allows to continue at this site.”

    This is really funny because for the past two years I have been assisting in an investigation which targets some of the largest financial corporations in the world.

    “Most of us just ignore him, even if he thinks he is CIA.”

    Simon, you ignore my comments and do not debate them because they are incongruent to and threaten your worldview. I have never claimed to work for the CIA; I have claimed to be well informed.

  14. @thymesup,

    Peter Dale Scott will at least reconsider something that he has written, and will retract or re-evaluate information and arguments. Such humility is lost on many of the Truthers.

    PDS can also acknowledge what he does not know, really the height of enlightenment, without relying on the mental crutch of conspiracy theory. The distinction between conspiracy theory and conspiratorial politics or parapolitics, being lost on most Truthers.

  15. Man, all I have to say right now is that I wish KF was one of my neighbors.

  16. I’m a supporter of AE911truth. If I hear one more pissant piece of whining from the irrational truthers out there, I’m going to puke on all of you.

    This place – this BFP place – is sacred ground because of what it’s founder has done for all of us. That includes 9/11 truth. If you don’t like how she says or doesn’t say what she has DONE, then go as far away as possible, because you are either distracting on purpose or you are disgustingly oblivious to the good things that are in front of you.

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