Podcast Show #44

The Boiling Frogs Presents Pepe Escobar

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Pepe Escobar returns to our show to discuss the ever-changing, constantly-shifting, and holes-filled script in the US raid that allegedly killed Osama bin Laden. He reports on the news accounts on the Arab uprising in Egypt and the rarely reported realities of the Libya War, the conflicted responses of the United States to the uprising in Egypt and Libya versus those in other places such as Bahrain and Tunisia, and the hypocritical stand on Saudi Arabia. Mr. Escobar talks about the US assembly line of Boogiemen used as catalysts for conflicts and wars, the conflicting accounts on the Bin Laden Death Operation that have been completely censored by the US media and the official narrative as an elaborate PSYOP, the critical turning point in US-Pakistan relations and the China factor in the region, the Central and South Asia geopolitics factor, and more!

EscobarPepe Escobar, born in Brazil is the roving correspondent for Asia Times and an analyst for The Real News Network. He is an investigative journalist with three decades of experience in covering politics and conflicts around the globe. He's been a foreign correspondent since 1985, based in London, Milan, Los Angeles, Paris, Singapore, and Bangkok. Since the late 1990s, he has specialized in covering stories and cases from the Middle East to Central Asia, including the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. He was in Afghanistan and interviewed the military leader of the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance, Ahmad Shah Masoud, a couple of weeks before his assassination. Mr. Escobar has made frequent visits to Iran and is the author of three must-read books: Globalistan: How the Globalized World is Dissolving into Liquid War, Red Zone Blues: A Snapshot of Baghdad During the Surge, and Obama Does Globalistan.

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  1. This is an excellent interview. Escobar is one of the finest on this topic, and he doesn’t hold back! Please help disseminate this to counter the other side spreading lies-misinformation-propaganda…executing WH PSYOP script. Thank you!

  2. I think it most likely that the real OBL died in December 2001. Please see David Ray Griffin’s “Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?” for a detailed review of the evidence. The so called “confession video” released on December 13 2001 is a pretty obvious fake, featuring a portly “bin Laden” that hardly resembles the skinny, sickly man in the authentic video released only a month before. Since then, there have been numerous videos and audios released duly “authenticated” by the CIA using various doubles. The use of such dopplegangers is a well-developed CIA technique. My hypothesis is that they had one such doppleganger stashed away at this safe house in Abbottabad, where they were using him to make these fake videos. When they decided to kill off the bin Laden character, they raided their own safe house, killed the doppleganger and dumped his body in the ocean so the world would have to take the administration’s word that it was really him. As to why this was done at this time, first the political timing is good. This was the kickoff to Obama’s 2012 presidential campaign. He was sagging in the polls, and this has given him a big lift. Also, this puts pressure on Pakistan, which is being blamed for having harbored bin Laden in its midst for so long. The U.S. greatly fears that Pakistan is allying itself with China and kicking the U.S. out. Pakistan can also cut off the supply lines to U.S. troops in Afghanistan at any time. The pace of drone attacks in Pakistan is increasing. The situation is very dangerous, and we may soon see the outbreak of regional war.

  3. SanderO says:

    Of course the CIA used a mythical OBL boogieman… I noted this in my previous comment.

    When the CIA lips are moving.. lies are being uttered. Bank on it.

  4. Obama’s starting to use more of these things to build for his re-election.

    Bin Laden’s “death” says that he’s tough and not afraid to kill the big bad “terrorists” that are everywhere.

    Intl. law is to be manipulated to protect the Homeland.

    The public must be willing to sacrifice some basic rights in exchange for security.

    We live in an ulgy world where torture and assassanation are necessary for security.

    Now, add to this mix the notoriously short attention span of much of the public. In exchange for a “tolerable” lifestyle for many, they’re expected to re-elect Obama. Many will do just that.

    I’ll make a prediction. Some neocon will give him what appears to be “competition” (which in this case is naturally micromanaged by campaign strategists, the corporations and the MSM). But not a surprise, in the end it’s the old the lesser of two evils thing. And Obama will pull off a not-so-stunning re-election.

    It’s almost like Brand Obama deserves the Fickeld Finger of Fate Award (a staple of Rowan and Martin’s Laugh in in the ’60s). Not one person in the MSM will dare to admit that this isn’t an election. It’s an ad campaign with budgets that agencies can only dream about. Nothing more, nothing less. Millions will still say, why bother? There’s no national voting standard. Machines can be hacked. Other countries still see our elections as banana republic ones. However, that’s considered “normal”.

    While I don’t want to see him re-elected, what realistic opposition is there to Obama? There isn’t any. Neocon: would YOU vote for Romney, Gingrich, Palin or Bachman? Paul has no chance at all. Third party: there isn’t anyone. Nader trying again won’t work. The Greens are way to disorganized to be taken seriously. Bloomberg is a joke if he did try to run. Which leaves no one.

    If some false flag operation happens, that essentially will gurantee it. Because at that point, how many are going to publically dare to be “unpatriotic” and criticize the President? You realize that many states are right-to-work. This means that if I criticize the President and my boss doesn’t like it, I can be fired and have no legal recourse. Am I saying do nothing at all? No. I’m just saying be aware of all the elements that are involved here.

  5. ZicaTanka says:

    I’m tired of people repeating “no chance” “no chance” “no chance”. Especially people who might vote for a Nader or a Paul. It’s so ironic that the supposedly frustrated-with-the-status-quo are complicit in it’s continuance. Please stop. If you need inspiration, just listen to a Nader speech. If you think he’s wasting his time – you’re wrong.

  6. This was a far ranging and detailed interview. I can shed some light in one direction from some recent inquiries I made: Bahrain and BIS

    IFSB – Islamic Financial Standards Board
    AAOIFI – Islamic accounting and auditing organization for Islamic Financial Institutions
    IIFM – Islamic Financial Market (trading center)

    Bahrain has become a major regional center for Islamic finance. Islamic finance has become a worldwide industry, with assets under management in accordance with the shariah law valued at over $200 billion.
    Protests in Shi’ite-majority Bahrain, which is ruled by a Sunni dynasty, broke out after popular uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia toppled those countries’ long-time autocratic rulers. The main Opposition groups have stopped short of demanding the toppling of the King, insisting on major reforms, but hardliners have been vocal in calling for the end of

    Is it true that there was a political trade-off between Bahrain and Malaysia over the location of IFSB?
    The IMF was facilitating the whole thing. They called a meeting in Paris of the proposed founding governors of the IFSB because traveling to the US post 9/11 was difficult. In fact, we discussed this issue first at a side meeting in 2000 during the World Bank/IMF Annual Meeting in Prague when it was recommended that IFSB be set up separately from AAOIFI. The Bahraini delegation in Prague maintained that IFSB should be based in Manama. A counter-proposal came from the Malaysian Minister of Finance II who declared that Malaysia would be willing to host the IFSB. The IMF itself does not get involved in where an institution should be based. They only help facilitate the building and implementation of the required architecture. In the Paris meeting it was finally agreed that the International Islamic Financial Market (IIFM) should be located in Manama and the IFSB in Kuala Lumpur.

    One of the first international agencies to join IFSB was the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), which facilitated many openings for us especially with the Basle Committee and IAIS, which are both housed at the BIS. The BIS came on board with the IFSB also because both organizations have very strong common members including Saudi Arabia and Malaysia.

    Kuala Lumpur-based Islamic Financial Services Board (IFSB)

    Manama (al Manāma) is the capital and largest city of Bahrain, with an approximate population of 155,000 people. It is home to Islamic Financial Market (IIFM).

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Emerging market countries challenged Europe’s grip on the leadership of the International Monetary Fund on Tuesday as pressure mounted for the fund’s jailed managing director Dominique Strauss-Kahn to quit.
    In a significant move China which last year become the IMF’s third most powerful member country, called for “fairness, transparency and merit” in the selection of the next IMF boss.

  7. @Zica Tanka

    I think you’ve misunderstood some of earlier comments re: Paul and the 2012 election. So, to set the record straight:

    How am I being complicit in continuing the status quo? I toally disagree. First, I spend a lot of time online and talking to sources both here and abroad re: politics, the global economy and more. Also, I’ve been homeless twice due to a health problem that I’m still dealing with that’s not my fault. I have daily first hand experience with the bureaucracy (from cops hassling you for no valid reason to Social Security and other bureaucrats laughing in my face or trying to blow me off).

    I’ve been hung up on and blown off by every progressive person in Congress. INCLUDING Obama (when he was still in the Senate). Does this sound like someone who just loves to sit at home and bitch all the time and do nothing? Far from it.

    We still have a right to our opinion. You can vote for whoever you want, just as I can. However, if I feel that my facts are solid on an issue, I will say something (hopefully in the most constructive way I can). A suggestion. From now on, please stop making broad assumptions and putting someone you’ve never met in a totally broad and unfair category. That’s really rude.

  8. ZicaTanka says:

    How am I being complicit in continuing the status quo?
    By repeating “no chance”.

    You’re right – I don’t know you. Sorry for your problems. I’m not making assumptions about you. I’m criticizing your actions. There’s a big difference.

    It’s the action of parroting the MSM’s mantra about any “non-viable” candidate that I have a problem with. Have you considered just how many people go to the (supposed) lesser of two evils because they hear “no chance” from people with whom they associate? I have and it has been mostly from people who want an independent.

    It’s my opinion that voters need to be less afraid to lose. I think you get my point – it’s nothing personal.

  9. The deceptions are so enormous, and there is so much to absorb.. which makes this podcast so special, since its participants seem to have a sense of humor and ability to look at the intricacies of the absurd. Certainly, too, one must be concerned of the next false flag attack, which to me goes beyond the politics of a two party US system. The Osama execution charade right after the Birth Certificate finally surfaced, I believe, was to cut off any “conspiracy theories” contrary to what the mainstream media was reporting. This also sets up more false flags using the usual response of the al-qaida CIA creation to fuel what is next.. and more loss of civil freedoms as the economy is failing except for the super wealthy.

    Thanks for all efforts.. I will link to this from my site FlybyNews.com

  10. Geopolitics continued for the search words below:

    Dominique Strauss-Kahn
    Osama look alike

    In Bahrain:
    More men and women, young girls, are taken to military court for practicing their freedom of expression, taking part in protests or programs, or having seen a message on their telephones through an SMS, or they Twitted a statement, uploaded a human rights statement in their Facebook account…all of these become a crime which could take them to life in prison.

    (This is why a more secure system should be learned by those speaking out in defense of freedom. In America it is still possible to post, but not so in more overtly fascist states. I suggest using Ubuntu 11.04, Vidalia, and Tor together. Once this setup is working properly on your operating system, further anonymity can be achieved by clicking on a new ID in Vidalia after each search. This new user identity provides a different IP address each time. It is not failsafe, but better than current efforts to network where everything is monitored.)

    Khalid Hamad Abdul Rahman is the link between Bahrain and the IFSB – Islamic Financial Standards Board in Malaysia. The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) was the first to support this institution and its sister organization in Bahrain.

    By Masood Ahmed:
    “Meanwhile, higher oil prices are strengthening the region’s oil exporters, but—combined with rising food prices—weakening its oil importers.”
    Masood Ahmed is director of the IMF’s Middle East and Central Asia

    Dominique Strauss-Kahn’s fall may mean Sarkozy’s survival – which is why more than half of the French, and 70% of socialists, believe that Strauss-Kahn was the
    victim of a plot.

    By General Retd Mirza Aslam Beg*:
    “Osama’s look-alike prisoner from Bagram was picked up and brought to
    Abbottabad and killed in cold blood in front of his family members, who
    were living there. In fact, OBL had been killed in Afghanistan some time
    back and his body may still be lying in a mortuary in Afghanistan. They
    showed a bullet-ridden picture of Osama, which was two years old, and
    another photo that had no resemblance with him. His body was dumped into
    the sea to hide the crime committed in such a clumsy manner. The 2/5
    episode was the finale of the 9/11 lies and was meant to achieve three
    main objectives:
    i With the mission accomplished, Obama was to gain political advantage
    in the forthcoming elections;
    i To find an excuse for the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
    i To defame the Pakistan government, its armed forces and the ISI.”

    On all the three counts, the US President has gained and Pakistan now is reeling under pressure, blaming its own armed forces and the ISI for the failure to safeguard territorial sovereignty, not knowing that we ourselves have pillaged the country’s sovereignty as a matter of political expediency. It is a sad story, but needs to be remembered.

    *Mirza Aslam Beg, (born 2 August, 1931), is a retired four star rank general who was the Chief of Army Staff of the Pakistan Army. He continued to hold the powerful post of Army Chief till 1991. As Army chief, Beg is credited for improving war-fighting capabilities of the Pakistani Army.

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